[TADSLOS]

Fast Food.

[ops33]

Just about every professional military force today can trace their structure, training, discipline, organization, symbols, values, etc., to the Roman legions.

[Fzob]

I have a better question. Other than write a bunch of worthless tripe about how Mary Beard hates Western culture and thought, what has she given us?

[stacytec]

what did the Romans do for us? Advancements in architecture, engineering, math, medicine, government, markets, libraries, Metallurgy, chemistry and I'm sure there are a few hundred other things I'm not thinking of. Damn Romans and their damn advancemnt of humanity.

[evolved_rage]

"What have the Romans ever done for us? Name one good thing Roman rule has brought us?"

A small voice in the back says:

"The aqueducts"

Then other voices start adding

"Roman roads, rule of law, modern medicine, schools etc".

"Yeah, well outside the aqueducts, the roads, rule of law, schools, modern medicine, civilization, what have the Romans ever done for us"?

[Oztrich Boy]

"Beulah, peel me a dormouse"

[Michael81Dus]

The question is not, what have the Romans done for us, but what can we do for the Romans? Or even better, what will our children´s children say about what we will have done for them?

[television is just wrong]

learning from their mistakes. They had open borders, got lazy used cheap labor to do work and eventually collapsed on it's own accord.

[Casloy]

Sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Nick.

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[ElkGroveDan]

the aqueduct?

[bigsigh]

Look at our government and military. The very structure dates back to Rome. Roads and other large civic projects. I think Rome had the first sewer. The list is much longer than I can remember.

[Graymatter]

They gave us garum, a great fish sauce, and a number of useful political precedents.
Now let's think about what they spared us. Etruscan kings. Carthaginian culture. Mithraism. And more inbred descendants of Cleopatra and Ptolemy.

[nopardons]

Poor, poor Mary Beard, the wacky intellectual prof. If only she had bothered to read Dian Phillips' excellent bio, she would have learned that I,CLAUDIUS was designed to be a SOAP OPERA of sorts, with the family battles treated as what the director thought Jewish family squabbles were like.

Robert Graves was not only a poet and an expert on mythology ( not to mention the forerunner of what Joseph Campbell did become, decades later ), he was also a writer who delighted in writing fiction, fiction based on Greek and Roman myths and poems, with lots of historical facts thrown into the mix. Unlike his contemporary and fellow author, George Orwell, Graves' fiction was just that...FICTION, to be read and enjoyed, without any roiling, present day political overtones nor undertones.

This article is just supercilious poppycock.

[wolfcreek]

Roman noses ane the origins of our "Pagan" holidays.

[toddlintown]

Spartacus?