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Apart from vomitoriums and orgies, what did the Romans do for us?
Guardian (U.K.) ^ | Saturday October 29, 2005 | Mary Beard

Posted on 10/30/2005 1:05:06 AM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: horse_doc

It's funny that you mention this, that's the impression I get as well - and it makes me Thank the Lord for the rise of Christianity. I shudder when I think what the modern world would be like without the teachings of Christ.


41 posted on 10/30/2005 4:37:09 AM PST by Mr. C
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To: ichabod1
I think I understand why Rome needed a Caesar, because I think I see why WE are going to need a caesar to bail our butts out of the crack we're getting ourselves into...

For every Hadrian or Marcus Aurelius, you get a Commodus or Nero.

I'll keep our flawed Repulic for a little while longer.

42 posted on 10/30/2005 4:39:05 AM PST by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: nickcarraway

Just about every professional military force today can trace their structure, training, discipline, organization, symbols, values, etc., to the Roman legions.


43 posted on 10/30/2005 4:40:59 AM PST by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: goonie4life9
I don't know? Indoor plumbing maybe, the spread of Christianity?

I think the spread of Christianity was unintentional and much of Rome's technology came from the ancient Greeks.

44 posted on 10/30/2005 4:44:23 AM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: nickcarraway

I have a better question. Other than write a bunch of worthless tripe about how Mary Beard hates Western culture and thought, what has she given us?


45 posted on 10/30/2005 4:45:29 AM PST by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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To: Wormwood
I'll keep our flawed Repulic for a little while longer.

Yes, a little longer. I'm not ready to anoint a dictator yet. :)

46 posted on 10/30/2005 4:49:20 AM PST by ichabod1 (PC equals aPCzment)
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To: nickcarraway
what did the Romans do for us? Advancements in architecture, engineering, math, medicine, government, markets, libraries, Metallurgy, chemistry and I'm sure there are a few hundred other things I'm not thinking of. Damn Romans and their damn advancemnt of humanity.
47 posted on 10/30/2005 4:49:43 AM PST by stacytec
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To: nickcarraway

"What have the Romans ever done for us? Name one good thing Roman rule has brought us?"

A small voice in the back says:

"The aqueducts"

Then other voices start adding

"Roman roads, rule of law, modern medicine, schools etc".

"Yeah, well outside the aqueducts, the roads, rule of law, schools, modern medicine, civilization, what have the Romans ever done for us"?


48 posted on 10/30/2005 4:50:09 AM PST by evolved_rage
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To: Moonman62

Rome's Technology came from the Greeks? I would grant that the basic mathematics, algebra, and calculus may have come from the Greeks, but it was the Roman Engineers that applied them to real world problems and tamed the natural world. I never heard of any 60 mile GREEK aqueducts.

I recently learned from a documentary though that the Romans didn't have the calculus skills to survey bends in their roads, so they went straight as an arrow and then turned 90 degrees, and still do on the old Roman Roads in England and elsewhere.


49 posted on 10/30/2005 4:54:29 AM PST by ichabod1 (PC equals aPCzment)
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To: nickcarraway

"Beulah, peel me a dormouse"


50 posted on 10/30/2005 4:56:39 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Paging Nehemiah Scudder:the Crazy Years are peaking. America is ready for you.)
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To: Watery Tart

LOL! Well done. I'm glad I checked before I posted the same thing. Freepers are always quick with Monty Python bits.


51 posted on 10/30/2005 4:57:22 AM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: R. Scott
...that include such delicacies as foie gras.
Of more importance would be Roman contributions to the military...

I myself count the spreading of foie gras production from the Egyptians and Greeks as a very important Roman contribution to our world also. ;-)

52 posted on 10/30/2005 5:00:44 AM PST by snowsislander
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To: nickcarraway

The question is not, what have the Romans done for us, but what can we do for the Romans? Or even better, what will our children´s children say about what we will have done for them?


53 posted on 10/30/2005 5:03:36 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: ichabod1
The tunneling through mountains and draining of lakes was impressive.

One thing I read in Durant's books is he thought Rome declined because technological advancements were eventually suppressed in order to preserve jobs.

54 posted on 10/30/2005 5:04:07 AM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: nickcarraway

learning from their mistakes. They had open borders, got lazy used cheap labor to do work and eventually collapsed on it's own accord.


55 posted on 10/30/2005 5:04:29 AM PST by television is just wrong (http://hehttp://print.google.com/print/doc?articleidisblogs.blogspot.com/ (visit blogs, visit ads).)
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To: television is just wrong

But their problem weren´t cheap workers from the south, who legally or illegally entered the Empire. Their problem were uneducated, rough fighters from the cold North, entering and destroying their cities. You better watch out America, Canada might be more dangerous than you imagine. :-)


56 posted on 10/30/2005 5:08:07 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: Savage Beast

I thought she was indicating the brush with which film and television producers seek to paint conservative U.S. administrations. Of course Nixon wasn't a conservative. He in fact scorned, in private, the conservative branch of the Republican party.


57 posted on 10/30/2005 5:11:27 AM PST by em2vn
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To: Michael81Dus

We as a nation have enemies from everywhere. Our elected officials are foolish thinking we do not have to protect our borders.


58 posted on 10/30/2005 5:12:42 AM PST by television is just wrong (http://hehttp://print.google.com/print/doc?articleidisblogs.blogspot.com/ (visit blogs, visit ads).)
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To: goonie4life9
Indoor plumbing maybe, the spread of Christianity?

Radiant floor heat......

59 posted on 10/30/2005 5:14:15 AM PST by Thermalseeker (-)
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To: snoringbear
Bathing!! The Roman baths are everywhere. They were important.

As you see, the Romans didn't spend much time in Gaul.

60 posted on 10/30/2005 5:22:05 AM PST by doberville
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