Posted on 10/28/2005 1:15:14 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Dobson and others were contacted by a over zealous sell job that occurred because the reactions were stronger negatives than expected. They should not have done it, and I still don't know who came up with that brainless idea. I doubt it was Bush, it was probably someone on the Christian right who is close to the admin and thought they were doing him and Miers a favor.
Yesterday, several TV talking heads claimed conservatives wanted to poke a big stick into Libs' eyes (sounds fine with me), and that the resulting public brawl was necessary to make the general dumb public understand what's been going on -- that Liberal courts have been legislating from the bench, and what democrats couldn't win at the ballot box, they've been stealing with the help of Liberal judges. Let them scream and filibuster. Let the gang of fourteen show their true colors. We have the majority in congress. We need to have that public argument, and we need to win.
It is, but using the same failed tactics you used on the border issue will not move the agenda forward.
It will be "Mier'd" in the political realities, as is the border issue. (I made a pun!)
Exactly...
O'Connor is there for the interim, and it might be a long interim.
Partial birth abortion, parental consent, are just two issues that will probably come up with O'Connor on the court.
"Cutting off your nose to spite your face" seems to apply in this instance.
I like the tree branch with the chainsaw in the wrong hand analogy.:-)
This is more like " a family issue" rather than a character issue.
"Robert Bork. Rush Limbaugh. Phyllis Schlafly. Laura Ingraham. Michelle Malkin. Mona Charen. Linda Chavez. "So-called conservatives."
Yes, I have now relegated all of those people to the back bench as I don't know enough about them and therefore see no point in listening to them. It would obviously be stupid of me to ask questions of and listen to answers from people of which I know little. Dismissing them out of hand makes a lot more sense.
He will not, or I should say, should not go throught the same process twice, so look for Luttig or Alito(sp). he (Luttig) was my original pick but Bush wanted to satisfy some who felt there should be some balance in terms of sex. A lot of them actually.
The fact is, that there will be another pick, and if they intend to do this quickly, they need to do it with someone previously vetted.
He will face rat critisism over a male and some in the party, but that really is going to happen no matter who he picks. They all hate him anyway.
My point.
Okay, here's my theory if anyone cares. Miers was a sacrificial lamb and I think she knew it. The reason: Bush knew that if he nominated a true, known conservative, he would not get the support from the spineless, jelly fish republicans in the senate. He knew they were too weak in the knees to put up a fight. Miers was a shot over the senate bow. Many said send a nominee they know something about and that have better credentials. Well, now he's going to nominate someone in the spirit of Scalia and Thomas and we'll see just how well the senate republicans respond. My guess is their still jelly fish and all they care about is their power in Washington, so they'll bow to the Democrats when it's all said and done. And by the way, this is the most despicable group of senate republicans we've ever had. Most just wear the elephant when needed (election time) bur nothing but a bunch of big spenders that give conservatives lip service. Thanks for the space.
No. Just as Dobson, Land and the others will continue to drink the koolaid, so will their followers.Sure they will, but their days of influence in the White House are over.
If they DON'T apply a "litmus test" with this candidate, they will be in trouble. I think the message has been heard. Keep stealth in the military, not the courts. Send up a REAL CONSERVATIVE, and stop hiding.
I've believed all along that the WH and the President see Dobson, Land and so forth as necessary evils. The problem is Dobson, Land and those like them have so emboldened their followers that they can no longer influence them. That dam has been breached.
Since when is exercising your First Amendment right going "around the Constitution?"
No one "forced" Miers to withdraw. She didn't have a gun held to her head and told to "withdraw or else!" People spoke up and the White House reacted.
You do realize don't you that we are the sovereigns in this country.....not the politicians?
I think your theory is ridiculous.
That being said, the nomination of Miers did have a few positive unintended consequences.
It turned the debate away from ideology and on to quality and qualification. That is a very positive development.
It also relieved Bush of any obligation of nominating a woman.
And finally, after Roberts had set the bar impossibly high, Miers has lowered it down to the floor for the next nominee. All that person has to be is demonstrably qualified. I think with O'Connor getting impatient to retire and care for her sick husband, and the death of Rehnquist and now withdrawal of Miers, the Democrats aren't going to be able to stand in the way too much when Bush selects a more controversial candidate.
I think our mantra should be "Let O'Connor Go Home!"
Suppose President Bush was still managing the Texas Rangers (baseball team) and was in need of am established slugger. And let's further state that Ted Williams, Joe DiMaggio, Hank Aaron and Roger Maris were available. Would President Bush select one of them or select a 0.180 hitting infielder who coached his daughters in T-ball?
Who are all these "his people" you're talking about? Dobson is no Pope and believe it or not Christian Conservatives actually make their own choices.....as the Harriet Miers nomination shows. After all, if Dobson really had "his people" they would have backed Miers like Dobson wanted them to.
Ohh, I like that!
If they DON'T apply a "litmus test" with this candidate, they will be in trouble.Uhhhh... no.
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