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Report: Cheney withheld info from Senate (Mentioned on Hardball)
M & C News ^ | October 28, 2005 | United Press International

Posted on 10/27/2005 6:01:22 PM PDT by Angel

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To: Howlin

I still want to know how Wilson knew those docs were forged. Before they were even presented.


41 posted on 10/27/2005 6:25:55 PM PDT by Peach (I believe Congressman Weldon.)
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To: Angel

It's not like his speech at the UN did any good there.


42 posted on 10/27/2005 6:25:59 PM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: Marli

Thanks for the link for the National Journal article. It had a lot more information.


43 posted on 10/27/2005 6:26:12 PM PDT by Angel
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To: Howlin

Wilkerson thinks that State runs the world/foreign policy and is another disgruntled employee who will use whatever means at his disposal (a willing press) to lie his way into being at the center of uncovering a conspiracy and being a press hero.


44 posted on 10/27/2005 6:26:55 PM PDT by Peach (I believe Congressman Weldon.)
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To: frankjr
The left must be getting real worried about Fitz if they put out meaningless crap like this.

In the libs own words spouted daily on Err America, it is a diversion from the real news.

45 posted on 10/27/2005 6:28:21 PM PDT by p23185
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To: p23185

I don't know how worried the left really is about Fitz. I'm not real happy hearing he extended his D.C. office space lease for 3 years.


46 posted on 10/27/2005 6:29:17 PM PDT by Peach (I believe Congressman Weldon.)
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To: Peach

I suspect ex-wife #2, the French diplomat, had something to do with it.


47 posted on 10/27/2005 6:29:37 PM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: Howlin
What The president needs to do is appoint a special prosecutor to look into the leaks from Fitzgerald and his grand jury and staff.

With any luck at all they could get Fitzgerald indicted for leaking to the press and removed from prosetuting the case.. How can an indicted proseutor prosecute a case.

How can a prosecutor charged with prosecuting leaks be allowed to get away with all the leaks.

The fact that the media will refuse to name who leaked grand jury testimoney to them, should be proof that Fitzgerald was negligent as prosecutor.. that should be grounds for disbarment at least.

48 posted on 10/27/2005 6:30:10 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Howlin

"This is much more than leaking Plame's name."

It's not much bigger, unless the investigation has merged with the FBI Niger Docs investigation footnoted in the Senate Intel report.

It is more than leaking her name, it's also about using secret memos about Plame to establish her involvement in getting Joe the trip.

This is not "devastating" to Cheney. The CYA'ers have been throwing out this red herring about Libby, whomever, wanting to establish stronger speeches, and "twisting" intelligence. His supposed weak stuff didn't get into the speeches and anyway they all believed Iraq had WMDs.

The other ruse is to say "dissenting voices" were suppressed. What's not said is those "dissenting voices" thought there were WMDs too, they just objected to specific bits of intel here and there.



49 posted on 10/27/2005 6:30:47 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Howlin

I don't know, what makes you think that?

my take on it is if Fitz were really walking down the path towards uncovering the real story behind this CIA rogue operation and its political motives - the left and the MSM would have been savaging him for months. he cannot conduct such an investigation is absolute secrecy, word would have reached the left of the true track of the investigation. but we don't see that - we don't see the left going after Fitz. what does that tell you?


50 posted on 10/27/2005 6:31:00 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: adam_az
The administrative branch doesn't have to answer to the legislative branch.

You alway hear about the legislative branch investigating the administration but you never hear about the administrative branch investigating the legislature.

51 posted on 10/27/2005 6:31:57 PM PDT by oldbrowser (A living, breathing constitution is a usurpation of the people's sovereignty.)
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To: Peach

you already do know that answer.

the problem is getting everybody else to know it.


52 posted on 10/27/2005 6:32:22 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Angel
How could the press know that Rove and Libby are at the top of Fitzgeralds list unles Fitz is illegally leaking.

We need a special prosecutor to empanel a grand jury to investigate Fitzgeralds grand jury leaks.

Perhaps an other special prosecutor could get Fitz for perjury or obstruction of justice.

53 posted on 10/27/2005 6:32:42 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Howlin
James R. Wilkinson

Wrong one.

54 posted on 10/27/2005 6:33:28 PM PDT by Marli
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To: Peach
"I'm not real happy hearing he extended his D.C. office space lease for 3 years."

If that is true, it would lead me to believe he's asking for a new grand jury. What would your take be on him leasing for 3 yrs? Where is the documentation on this lease?
55 posted on 10/27/2005 6:33:43 PM PDT by blogblogginaway (..)
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To: Common Tator

Alberto Gonzales could open that investigation tomorrow if he wanted to. he won't.


56 posted on 10/27/2005 6:34:43 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: jennyjenny; ravingnutter

I've read some excellent research by a few freepers about Wilson's wife #2 and her contacts, and it wouldn't surprise me if you're right.

This probably has no interest to most of those reading the thread, and for that, I apologize. But ravingnutter has done some interesting research on Plamegate and I'm putting it here: (note especially the next to last paragraph)

'WHITEWASH WEDNESDAY.' Fittingly, the CIA was the first to know. But many in its rank and file were dismayed by Director James Woolsey's closed-circuit report to the staff on the investigation of CIA turncoat Aldrich Ames. "Whitewash Wednesday," one officer called it. Woolsey shared few secrets. While deploring Ames's betrayal, which destroyed the CIA's Soviet network of spies and consigned 10 agents to death, he largely blamed "systemic failure." He reprimanded 11 officers and singled out by name only one--both publicly and in-house--for lapses.

Even then, he pulled his punches. Three of the severely reprimanded had already retired and one, former Bonn station chief Milton Bearden, was only days from retirement. Although Ted Price, the deputy director of operations, was singled out, Woolsey blunted the criticism by lauding his "ability and professionalism" and keeping him at his post. Among the reprimanded but not named was Alan Wolf, the CIA station chief in Rome when Ames's drinking problems and security violations were overlooked.

Source

Then I found this:

Duane 'Dewey' Clarridge longtime CIA field agent (NE & SE Asia) and administrator pardoned by GHW Bush for Iran-Contra involvement; was Aldrich Ames' supervisor (See A Spy for All Seasons, 1997, Scribner's).

Source

Does anyone else find it strange that the two people that Cannistraro name are the same ones that worked with Aldrich Ames, the person that "outed" Valerie Plame to the Russians?

Is there any reporting on this besides Cannistraro's word? I will see what I can find.



57 posted on 10/27/2005 6:34:56 PM PDT by Peach (I believe Congressman Weldon.)
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To: blogblogginaway

There was an article about it posted on FR last night.

And my take would be not an extension of the grand jury but a prosecution of people who are going to be indicted tomorrow. But that, of course, is just an uneducated guess.


58 posted on 10/27/2005 6:36:00 PM PDT by Peach (I believe Congressman Weldon.)
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To: blake6900
A former senior administration official...
Well, you're the only one that even got close to my line of thought on reading that.
After all, this isn't the Clinton Administration.
Lots on the thread are thinking a Republican did this, which is probably what is desired. However...
...nothing states whose/which adminstration this former senior administration official in.
It may be wrong, but somehow it wouldn't surprise me.
Either way it's "leading" reading. Shouldn't it have been written thusly?

A former Bush senior administration official...
Or even...A former senior official of the Bush administration...

59 posted on 10/27/2005 6:36:53 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: Shermy

Exactly so.


60 posted on 10/27/2005 6:37:01 PM PDT by nopardons
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