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Former school board member `misspoke' in advocating creationism
AP ^ | 10/27/2005 | MARTHA RAFFAELE

Posted on 10/27/2005 1:41:22 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor

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To: WildTurkey
"Bearing false witness"

This can result in the loss of a wheel during sharp turn.

81 posted on 10/27/2005 6:28:36 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: longshadow; PatrickHenry; RadioAstronomer
Miss Peak
82 posted on 10/27/2005 6:32:57 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: OriginalIntent

indoctrinate a captive audience of children into the 'proper' points of view.

But indoctrinating is fun for us teachers. You can't ruin that! It would take all the fun away from teaching reading, writing, and math, not to mention respect for family and parents, working hard, being honest, and the wonderful associations I have with my students and their parents. Do I need to give my mind control device away then?


83 posted on 10/27/2005 6:34:00 PM PDT by moog
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To: VadeRetro

YES! It will sound to the creationists like being caught in a compromising position. They ABHOR compromise.

This strict ceationist does not.


84 posted on 10/27/2005 6:35:09 PM PDT by moog
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To: ml1954
Another of the 'unusually clueless champions' of ID ducks, weaves, jumps, stumbles, tries to maintain balance, and falls face down in the mud. So I wasn't successful at boxing, who cares?:)
85 posted on 10/27/2005 6:36:00 PM PDT by moog
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To: VadeRetro

Serial sayer of "the thing which is not."

You mean Tony the Tiger can't say, "It's GRRRRRRREAT!"???????


86 posted on 10/27/2005 6:36:59 PM PDT by moog
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To: WildTurkey
So you are in favor of teaching school children that God may be dead?...I guess I don't have that much libertarian in me.

I am not sure why you would ask this concerning privatization of education, but I would leave that up to the parents.

Don't you think atheist parents or some who think God is dead should be able to tell their children that viewpoint or send them to a private school that does if they want. I think it should be up to them at any rate and not the government.

87 posted on 10/27/2005 6:38:08 PM PDT by joe_broadway (Talk is cheap.)
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To: narby

My post was inoperative.

Get a doctor.


88 posted on 10/27/2005 6:38:48 PM PDT by moog
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To: longshadow

Lots of factors involved in society in education too--


89 posted on 10/27/2005 6:40:38 PM PDT by moog
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To: joe_broadway
as opposed to public schools where there is no choice? Just looking at my local schools, I see more choice than I could have ever imagined than when I was growing up. BUT EVERY parent has a choice on what kind of education their child gets because they are the main influence on them and do control what values their child develops. Such was the case (still in the present time too) in my family.

Some of us would just like the choice to be able to raise a child too. But I'm not going to go get government money to pay for that personal choice.

90 posted on 10/27/2005 6:45:12 PM PDT by moog
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To: moog

I appreciate good teachers and the positive influence that many of them have. You sound like a great teacher and you would be just as good in a fine private school of the parent's choice. :)


91 posted on 10/27/2005 6:45:21 PM PDT by OriginalIntent (Liberals always lie about everything.---- The ACLU needs to be investigated and exposed.)
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To: OriginalIntent
I appreciate good teachers and the positive influence that many of them have. You sound like a great teacher and you would be just as good in a fine private school of the parent's choice. :) There are a lot of wonderful teachers whom I know who work just as hard as anyone. I appreciate the parents of my students who work so hard to support their children too. There are good and bad everywhere. I do get tired of things getting lumped together too often.

I love being able to serve some of my own neighbors and my community.

Most of my beef is locally, so I do not have any with you and think that you are probably a fine parent. My grandpa was a state teachers' union president and all of his grandchildren have gone to neighborhood schools. His legacy has continued and the great majority of his progeny are god-fearing, family-oriented people. Many of his grandsons are Eagle Scouts. My parents and many of my studetns' parents are wonderful people who know THEY are the main shapers of their children's futures. We had a speed bump here and there in public ed, but we also had many good teachers as well (this includes my brother still in it today). Even with the bad teachers, we were expected to respect the teacher and learn something and that we did. We didn't have comforts like cable TV or video game stystems (even though they were widely available), but we enjoyed our time together as a family and still do today. None of us are graduates of Harvard or Yale, but that didn't matter to my mom. She wanted us to turn out to be "good kids" and do well in life and we have.

I don't get many of my own choices. I would be rich if I had a nickel for all the things that have not gone my way, but I remain very thankful to the guy upstairs for the things with which he has blessed me.

I wish that I could say that I could complain about not having a "choice" for a child. I've wanted one for a dozen years (as have many other people). Others have much bigger things to deal with so I just am thankful for my blessings and work for the better.

92 posted on 10/27/2005 6:59:55 PM PDT by moog
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To: WildTurkey

Another creationist liar

I lie down pretty well:)


93 posted on 10/27/2005 7:02:34 PM PDT by moog
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misplacemarker.


94 posted on 10/27/2005 7:04:05 PM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: OriginalIntent

studetns'

See how good I am???:)


95 posted on 10/27/2005 7:07:55 PM PDT by moog
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Miss Peak

va-va-vrrrooooom!

96 posted on 10/27/2005 7:13:32 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: WildTurkey
I thought you were in favor of private schools.

I am .... I'm also cognizant this if parents send their kiddies to schools that teach garbage, there'll be significant consequences. But I think everyone ought to chose the child's education the same way they choose the food they feed them; from the free market. If you feed your kid Wing-Dings, don't be surprised if the kid grows up to be a mess; if you educate your kid on the intellectual equivalent of Wing-Dings (astrology, Creationism, ID, numerology, etc.), dont' be surprised if the kid ends up an intellectual mess.

97 posted on 10/27/2005 7:20:53 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: VadeRetro

LOL

You just made me choke on my Tums.


98 posted on 10/27/2005 7:21:35 PM PDT by b_sharp (Tagline? What tagline?)
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To: b_sharp

"You just made me choke on my Tums."

Don't get a tumsyachy.


99 posted on 10/27/2005 7:23:15 PM PDT by moog
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To: js1138
You vote AiG for what? Scam site of the year? I didn't know that nominations were closed already. I would have nominated ICR.
100 posted on 10/27/2005 7:28:53 PM PDT by b_sharp (Tagline? What tagline?)
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