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The Methamphetamine Epidemic -- Less Than Meets the Eye
Drug War Chronicle ^
| August 5, 2005
| Drug War Chronicle
Posted on 10/25/2005 10:10:26 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: coloradan
"Are you misunderstanding me intentionally as some sort of debating tactic?"
No, I have trouble have trouble with people who try and sweep this away as a prohibition issue. This isn't Drunk Driving...this isn't Smoking in Public. This is a mind altering Substance that has tremendous impact on public welfare. No amount of nanny state logic is going to solve your problem...the problem has to be engaged...immediately. No ands ifs or buts.
Unless of course you want to state something like the drug makes them smarter and more productive members of the community...Or that their intoxication is just a state of mind...
Doing nothing will doom the midwest to a horrid prison of tweeked freaks..Hell, there are towns in western Oklahoma and north Texas that are little more than small versions of the movie "Escape from New York"
Yet this is a function of prohibition.
I'm not understanding you I guess.
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posted on
10/25/2005 11:23:03 AM PDT
by
Explodo
(Pessimism is simply pattern recognition)
To: sandbar
I don't think drugs make people do things they aren't prone to do in the first place,
Meth does, it completely screws up the persons mind and body.
To: Delphinium
I would put it a little above crack cocaine. I've seen hideous stuff from crack heads. And, less obvious, places like NYC are still paying the price for the crack epidemic of the 1990s.
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posted on
10/25/2005 11:24:04 AM PDT
by
durasell
To: patricktschetter
Sudafed is available OTC.
Each liquid cap contains 30mg of pseudophederine hydrochloride and 200mg of guaifenesin. Max dosage is 8 caps in 24 hours.
2 boxes is enough for 6 days. If you are not cured in 6 days, you need to see a laryngologist.
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posted on
10/25/2005 11:24:04 AM PDT
by
verity
(Don't let your children grow up to be mainstream media maggots.)
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Whoa! Are we still here? I thought the Crack Epidemic wiped us out years ago.
85
posted on
10/25/2005 11:24:12 AM PDT
by
Wolfie
To: durasell
Drugs like meth and crack are a pathology associated/linked to poverty. Idle hands being the devil's workshop etc. etc. Rural communities are now suffering the same pathologies as the ghettos. Figure out a way to solve the problem and you get to win a Nobel Prize.Bears repeating. It's simple economics, a drug that can be manufactured cheaply in poor communities will become popular to manufacture in poor communities. Crack down on it enough until it gets expensive enough, and the kids will start sniffing paint, or drinking Robitussin, or any one of a dozen other cheap highs. It's not the substance, it's the culture.
I'm going to guess that a small-town environment makes it tough to get clean from drugs, due to the social stigma for addicts.
To: Delphinium
All I know is that Meth is the very worst drug I have ever seen, or imagined. Worse than alcohol, how it destroys people lives. I recall hearing that about heroin in New York in the 1970s.
To: coloradan
So your Logic would hold true on the prohibition on sex with children?
you see the hole in your logic?
You are saying that because there is a ban on sex with children...sex with children happens...
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posted on
10/25/2005 11:25:31 AM PDT
by
Explodo
(Pessimism is simply pattern recognition)
To: durasell
Meth isn't alcohol. There is no comparison.
Except the way the addiction to it destroys lives. Alcohol would be much worse if we counted the lives ruined, or ended.
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Another libertarian lovefest.
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posted on
10/25/2005 11:26:52 AM PDT
by
verity
(Don't let your children grow up to be mainstream media maggots.)
To: mysterio
>>>And funny how they fail to even make a dent in the problem. And how their "solutions" create even more intricate and dangerous criminal networks.>>>
And in the mean time, STILL giving up all of our freedoms.
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posted on
10/25/2005 11:27:05 AM PDT
by
sandbar
To: Delphinium
Except the way the addiction to it destroys lives. Alcohol would be much worse if we counted the lives ruined, or ended.
In total, yes. But not as a percentage of users.
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posted on
10/25/2005 11:27:14 AM PDT
by
durasell
To: durasell
Drugs like meth re-wire a person's brain. No kidding. When my daughter dried out after 6 months or so in prison, she said the worst part was the remorse she felt in remembering the things she'd done while high or trying to get another hit.
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posted on
10/25/2005 11:27:53 AM PDT
by
Max in Utah
(By their works you shall know them.)
To: f150driver
I recall hearing that about heroin in New York in the 1970s.
Well I married a heroin addict in the 70's, and he went on to addiction to Cocaine, and alcohol.
I have MUCH more experience than I wish I had, and I can tell you, nothing is worse than crank.
To: durasell
But not as a percentage of users.
I agree.
To: sandbar
Are you saying we should do nothing about the problem?
You are willing to sacrifice a few hundred thousand amercians to make your politcal point?
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posted on
10/25/2005 11:29:08 AM PDT
by
Explodo
(Pessimism is simply pattern recognition)
To: Explodo
>>>Not at all mate...I'm don't understand your agenda...and I don;t think you've witnessed the problem.>>>
Yes, Explodo is the only expert on this subject because he had a nutjob screaming about the devil in his face. Explodo, there have been many drunks commit crimes, many crackheads commit crimes, many herion junkies commit crimes. You know what? All those have been or are illegal and the problem has not LEFT. You are not the only victim of CRIMINALS.
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posted on
10/25/2005 11:29:47 AM PDT
by
sandbar
To: Max in Utah
Is your daughter still having any physical affects from crank?
I have a couple family members who have spent 6 months in prison for crank. One is very ill after being clean for about 5 years.
To: sandbar
"Explodo is the only expert on this subject because he had a nutjob screaming about the devil in his face."
I do note that I have been in the middle of this issue...how about you? Or are you going to tell me more about how this is politically wrong.
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posted on
10/25/2005 11:32:31 AM PDT
by
Explodo
(Pessimism is simply pattern recognition)
To: durasell
I would put it a little above crack cocaine.
I know that is bad too, but crank is so cheap and easy to make that it is so easy to get. It is so toxic.
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