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The Methamphetamine Epidemic -- Less Than Meets the Eye
Drug War Chronicle ^ | August 5, 2005 | Drug War Chronicle

Posted on 10/25/2005 10:10:26 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Explodo

I think people are confusing "speed" with meth. There's a difference. Years ago, this used to be the meth capital of the world, according to the sheriff. It's a horrible drug, and it is very easy to spot users. Meth permanently changes a person's personality. They'll steal the paint off your picket fence.

My bf's ex wife became a tweaker. He hates tweakers to this day. They stole everything that wasn't nailed down, among other things too personal to mention.


141 posted on 10/25/2005 12:40:17 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: patricktschetter

"And yet now I'm a crook when I try to buy more than 10 days or so worth of pseudoephedrine drugs for my occasional sinus issues, all because the meth makers use it. Grr."

No, it's all because you are owned by the STATE and have no freedom.


142 posted on 10/25/2005 12:41:57 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: NormB

>>>Meth does not promote good hygeine.

Hygeine is part of the problem, but most of it is the Beta Blockers that block nerves and roots getting the oxygen it needs. Or something like that. I'm not a pathologist.


143 posted on 10/25/2005 12:43:48 PM PDT by sandbar
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To: sandbar
"See, I'm all for personal responsibility. PEOPLE are destroying small towns. What you are saying is like saying guns kill people. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Guns are the method. Same as drugs are the method that PEOPLE use to destroy themselves and sometimes taking others down with it."

Congrats!

It took 45 posts for someone to call it like it is.

Meth never killed anyone.

People (losers) kill themselves.

Another poster wanted to hear "comments"?

Well, here's one. I live in a small town (population 5200) in Connecticut. We don't have a meth problem. I guess our kids are smarter than the dumb-a$$e$ in rural Oklahoma or Arizona. We don't have ex-firemen blowing cops brains out either...maybe we're behind the times or something.

I don't understand the thought process of taking drugs....but then again, I've never had more than 3 beers at one sitting either. I'm not being self righteous here...as I mentioned, I can not understand WHY someone would voluntarily do themselves harm like this.

The problem BEGINS with the PERSON doing the drugs...
144 posted on 10/25/2005 12:47:39 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Explodo

>>>Like Legalizing everything is a solution...

I'm sure that Legalizing Sex with Children will stop all sex with children...

Given your logic that's the case right?>>>

That is quite possibly the stupidest argument I have yet to see in debating prohibition. Since you can't comprehend the difference between an adult doing harm to themselves and an adult doing harm to a child, I'm going to end this debate.


145 posted on 10/25/2005 12:50:28 PM PDT by sandbar
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To: dljordan

>>>"And yet now I'm a crook when I try to buy more than 10 days or so worth of pseudoephedrine drugs for my occasional sinus issues, all because the meth makers use it. Grr."

No, it's all because you are owned by the STATE and have no freedom.>>>

Yes, and we have to think of all those poor victims that meth overtook and you MUST give up your right to sinus medication. Responsible person? Who cares! We have METH HEADS TO THINK ABOUT!!!


146 posted on 10/25/2005 12:52:20 PM PDT by sandbar
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To: taxed2death

>>>The problem BEGINS with the PERSON doing the drugs...


AMEN!


147 posted on 10/25/2005 12:53:38 PM PDT by sandbar
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To: sandbar
No...It's your Position that making something illegal legal will keep it from happening...That simply isn't the case...In fact it's completely Ridiculous.

Making Meth Legal will make the problem much worse.
148 posted on 10/25/2005 12:53:42 PM PDT by Explodo (Pessimism is simply pattern recognition)
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To: Explodo

>>>No...It's your Position that making something illegal legal will keep it from happening....>>>

No, that is not my argument at all. There will always be addicts. Always have been.


149 posted on 10/25/2005 12:55:09 PM PDT by sandbar
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To: taxed2death
If this was crack...We'd have movies and Rap music about it. We'd have Lefties crawling out of the woodwork that is was whitey trying to bring down the black man.

Now we have whitey's crack epidemic...and we see diddly...IN fact we get nothing more than anti-porhibitionism Nut jobs preaching LEGALIZE IT!!!!! While a generation of young Midwesterners dies...

Yeah Connecticut...great place. Glad you have the compassion to look down your nose big guy.
150 posted on 10/25/2005 12:57:58 PM PDT by Explodo (Pessimism is simply pattern recognition)
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To: Pyro7480

"I think the source of this article, and the media have agendas on the drug issue. That said, given what I have read on the subject of meth specifically, I think it's one of the more evil substances concocted by man."

It may seem like hype to those who don't have regular contact with these people.
I happen to live in the area that Newsweek described in its article. The article was accurate.
The local police cannot keep up with this problem.
Children are most definitely being neglected and exposed to dangerous toxic chemicals.
People are turning into zombies - I've seen it.
There is a meth lab less than 1/2 a mile from my home. I don't know why the police can't bust this guy - but he's been in business for a long time.

This is a poor area. These people can't afford to buy coke or heroin - but they're making tons of this stuff.
When they're high they often go 2 to 3 days without sleeping or eating.

I hope this is a passing fad - but I'm afraid it's not.


151 posted on 10/25/2005 12:58:05 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: sandbar

and this is more than a coupel of addicts...this is almost the entire generation.

While you preach...they die. Live with yourself.


152 posted on 10/25/2005 12:59:07 PM PDT by Explodo (Pessimism is simply pattern recognition)
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To: Explodo
Comments:
Pretty much the same in Oregon. Little logging town are see the local taverns close or shut back hours.
This meth of course is the finest from beautiful Mexico.
153 posted on 10/25/2005 1:01:17 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: emiller

My cousin's wife has been on drugs for years, that could be her picture. She looks worse than a 90 yr old woman.


154 posted on 10/25/2005 1:03:02 PM PDT by tiki
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To: little jeremiah

I know in our town it is running rampant. All you have to do is talk to a policeman. They are making some good busts and they're even getting to the money men.


155 posted on 10/25/2005 1:04:35 PM PDT by tiki
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To: sandbar

Yep.


156 posted on 10/25/2005 1:05:06 PM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways "Guero")
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To: goldstategop

You can't find blue-tip strike anywhere matches here (upstate NY). I asked the store manager why, the reply was that the blue tips can be used to make meth. Even across the border in PA the tip of the strike anywhere matches are now all white.


157 posted on 10/25/2005 1:05:59 PM PDT by printhead
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To: investigateworld
This meth of course is the finest from beautiful Mexico.

Oh yes, the "Mexican Mafia." Legendary among lowlifes around here. "Don't mess around with him-- he's with the Mexican Mafia, he'll kill you!"

158 posted on 10/25/2005 1:12:53 PM PDT by Max in Utah (By their works you shall know them.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
It's become a real pain to buy medicine containing sudafed just because there are some morons out there who want to distill the tables, snort the stuff and watch their teeth fall out. Still, I don't appreciate the inconvenience and it seems the Drug War needs to be constantly fueled because equilibrium is legalize freedom and allow individuals to put into their body anything they want.

Remember freedom?

I don't appreciate having to ask for sudafed! This is so overkill.
159 posted on 10/25/2005 1:13:55 PM PDT by jackieaxe (English speaking, law abiding, taxpaying citizen)
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To: jackieaxe
"allow individuals to put into their body anything they want."

Until that substance causes you to interfere with my pursuit of Life liberty and the Pursuit of happiness..

Right?
160 posted on 10/25/2005 1:16:08 PM PDT by Explodo (Pessimism is simply pattern recognition)
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