Posted on 10/25/2005 9:26:05 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
Yep, and you now have to pay NYT for the "privilege" of reading that harlot.
Jacqueline, (Wilson's second wife), was a French diplomat and may have provided the connections for Wilson to see the forged documents that were supplied by the French through the Italians. It has been reported that she was a "cultural counselor" for the French Embassy, which some say is code for she was doing undercover work.
In other words it is possible that Wilson knew that the docs were forged because he was privy to the information that French wanted to discredit the British info on Saddam shopping for yellowcake and that Wilson's objective was the same. The French just happen to manage the yellowcake production in Niger.
IOW, he didn't lie in his first statement...he saw the documents.
And Fedora has contributed this:
French intelligence soon began a campaign to discredit the US case for war against Iraq. In 1999, French intelligence had begun investigating the security of uranium supplies in Niger, where uranium production was controlled by a consortium led by the French mining company COGEMA, a division of the French state-owned nuclear energy firm AREVA. At that time, Italian businessman Rocco Martino provided French intelligence with genuine documents revealing that Iraq was planning to expand trade with Niger. French intelligence took an interest in the documents and asked Martino to provide more information. In 2000 he used a contact in the Niger embassy in Rome to provide French intelligence with documents purporting that Iraq had purchased uranium from Niger. These documents were later exposed as forgeries;
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Since it is now also known that French intelligence was trying to push Martinos forgeries on US and British intelligence, as simultaneously the Democratic National Committee was planning to discredit President Bushs Iraq policy by accusing his administration of manufacturing evidence against Husseins regime, heightened suspicion is cast on Wilsons use of the Niger investigation to discredit the Bush administrations case for war.
What Wilson Didnt Say About Africa
Wuli also just posted a timeline thread asking the question about how Joe Wilson saw the documents before they were turned over to the CIA and other questions. It also validates the theory that he saw them in advance:
Joe Wilson's Lies, A Timeline - Who Forged the Documents?
Then if you connect the dots between the article,Was the Joe Wilson Valerie Plame Affair a CIA Plot?and the article New York Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name, you come away with all the makings of French/CIA coup attempt. George Tenet was Novak's first source, he was the administration official that was described as "no partisan gunslinger" by Novak.
It also validates the article by Seymour Hersch (who we normally dismiss as a leftie moonbat):
Who produced the fake Niger papers? There is nothing approaching a consensus on this question within the intelligence community. There has been published speculation about the intelligence services of several different countries. One theory, favored by some journalists in Rome, is that [the Italian intelligence service] Sismi produced the false documents and passed them to Panorama for publication.
Another explanation was provided by a former senior C.I.A. officer. He had begun talking to me about the Niger papers in March, when I first wrote about the forgery, and said, 'Somebody deliberately let something false get in there.'
He became more forthcoming in subsequent months, eventually saying that a small group of disgruntled retired C.I.A. clandestine operators had banded together in the late summer of last year and drafted the fraudulent documents themselves.
The stranger that approached Novak? Larry Johnson, Ex-CIA. And if my theory is correct, Vincent Cannistraro, another ex-CIA agent, who is a security consultant to the Vatican in Rome, engineered the break-in at the Niger Embassy there, where the letterhead and seals were stolen for the forgeries.
I just hope Fitzgerald is following the path. The final nail...it was kind of funny that I have been "warned" that I should not pursue this research by someone in a private freepmail. Too bad...I ain't skeered... : )
Fascinating.
I'm sure others have said it, but this explanation also explains why so many leaks have occured to the press.
Nobody in the Whitehouse would dare, or need to leak now.
see post #42
See post 42.
Who on here would try and persuade you from following a lead? Do they know something you don't know and don't want you to find out? How intriguing.......
You have excellent eyesight.
We know that Cooper has been questioned about the plame/Rove leak before the GJ. Cooper is married to Mandy Grunwald, who worked for Hillary.
We know Tenet of the CIA was hired by Bill, before Porter Goss got his job.
One story is about Plame/Rove, the other is Able Danger. What family name do we see connected to both stories?????
Outstanding collection of info, thank you. Have to read later.
bump for raving nutter reference
Mr. Wilson seems to have an affinity for spooks.
BIG BTTT
I loved the descriptive Rush was using on his show today to describe the infighting at the NYT. It was funny as hell!
Bump for FReeper research!
Very interesting......
And I had not made the connection to Gabon until this morning when doing some research.
Wilson (as Ambassador to Gabon) had/has connections to the Gabon Chief of State, Omar Bongo, who was the chief African ally of the French oil company TotalFinaElf, a major beneficiary of the Oil-for-Food bribes. Prior to the Iraq War, they had a contract with Saddam's regime worth an estimated 12.5 to 27.0 billion barrels of oil reserves. Also he had connections via the Middle East Institute and Rock Creek, both of which are Saudi controlled.
If you will note post #21 by piasa in the thread I linked above, Wilson's wife Jacqueline was also apparently a lobbyist for Bongo and it seems Wilson was pretty chummy with Saddam's weapons buyer, having dinner with him on the eve that Kuwait was invaded in 1990, per post #22. That makes it very clear that there are connections to oil-for-food. No wonder Wilson can afford his lifestyle.
A bit of interesting trivia that I picked up while researching...Brewster, Jennings and Associates (the CIA front) was named after Brewster Jennings, who served as President of the predecessor to Exxon Mobile Corp., Esso. The Iraq Petroleum Company, before it was nationalized, was owned by BP, Shell, Esso, Mobil and CFP and they reportedly made huge profits manipulating oil prices.
I have writen to my Congressman, John Sweeney (NY), requesting that he and others ask for an inquiry into the CIA and the entire Wilson/Plame nonsense. I suggested that it seems as though there was a conspiracy and plan to discredit and thwart the foreign policy of a duly elected president and his administration. I said I want the career beaurocrats at CIA investigated anlong with Wilson and the media outlets pushing the story (not accurately, I might add).
I think everyone should contact their representatives asking for an inquiry into the CIA and their leaks and possible covert plots against President Bush. I think it's treason and needs to exposed.
Thanks for the ping!
It appears we have our very own Galloway. Great research, ravingnutter.
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