Young Singers Spread Racist Hate (Racist BARF alert)

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[Melas]

You're looking at digital artifacts common in lossy compression systems often used in computerized photographs. It's especially pronounced in high contrast areas like black lines on a white background. It's led more than one freeper to prematurely declare that a jpg of a text document is faked.

[SJackson]

I like that one.

[Skywalk]

The other thing being missed here, is that Ice Cube's "Black Korea" phase was years ago and that the "Grammy Awards" being heaped upon people go to the likes of Kanye West or Black Eyed Peas. Kanye may have made a stupid statement, but he is not talking about people who aren't black being dead in a race war, in fact, he's a pretty strong Christian.

People here seem to neglect that 1) Most rap these days, esp the popular kind does not promote anything REMOTELY close to what these girls promote 2) The rap that did is no longer en vogue.

I do think, whatever the hate, Ice Cube was at his musical best in those days, but I never approved of his messages of hate, when he engaged in it.

[SJackson]

Their "message" so to speak seems to be inspired more from the frustration with double standards rather than some belief that one race is superiour to the other…. find it sad that many in this thread would attack these girl's freedom of speech and yet fail to speak out against an organization such as the NAACP.

No.

Der kinder praise Dr. Pierce, presumably William Pierce, leader of the National Alliance, Ian Stuart, a forerunner in melodic hate, now deceased, Robert Mathews, a white nationalist terrorist killed in a shootout with federal agents, best known for murdering the Jew broadcaster in Denver who criticized the “white, pagan whatever they are” folk. Rudolph Hess, man of Peace, I hope most people know a Nazi when they see one.

Despicable people. I get to say that, free speech and all, even on a private site. After all, it can be erased.

Can anyone on the thread who whines about “double standards”, direct me to the posts where black racists are defended on FR? I’d like to see them, maybe then I’d understand the whining on threads like this.

[SJackson]

People here seem to neglect that 1) Most rap these days, esp the popular kind does not promote anything REMOTELY close to what these girls promote 2) The rap that did is no longer en vogue.

And when it does, it's condemned, which is precisely what is happening here.

[Sender]

Please allow me to say that any frank and brutal discussion of racial insensitivity that I've been involved in has NOTHING to do with Jews or Judaism.

I am completely pro-Israel, an unabashed Zionist and I support elderly Soviet Jews and the poor in Jerusalem monthly. I have a library of sources of the Jewish roots of Christianity. There is no more certain friend of Judaism than myself. I am not trying to evangelize or convert Jews, and I will accept no anti-Semitism from anyone, period.

While it can be argued that many feel they are Jews by descent, Judaism is a faith, not a race. There simply is no comparison between anti-Semitism and racism, other than that both are ugly and obscene.

This thread sort of took a wrong turn in speaking frankly about issues of racial bias, but yet the girls in question are espousing genocide against a faith. Two distinct evils.

Let's not allow the two evils to be mistaken. There exists racism between colors of skin, and it is evil and wrong. On another completely different plane, there exists hatred against persons of another faith, and that is even more evil and wrong. Let no one say otherwise; both racism and hatred of another faith are wrong.

I just have to say for honesty's sake that these are two different struggles. Let's not confuse them. Peace out.

[ariamne]

No quarter given for Nazi or any other kind of socialist scum, I like that.

These little naziskanks can kiss my kosher ---.

I'm just expressing my freedom of speech.

[SJackson]

I’m not sure which post you’re referencing, I don’t think I accused you of anything, from what I remember of your posts there was nothing to accuse you of.

Judaism is a faith as Sammy Davis and many Ethiopian Jews demonstrate. In the context of white nationalism, or whatever anyone wants to call this particular pagan faith, race-hatred and faith-hatred are essentially the same evil. Don’t kid yourself, the girls are advocating genocide not only against a faith, but racial genocide as well. It's the same hatred.

[rdb3]

Can anyone on the thread who whines about “double standards”, direct me to the posts where black racists are defended on FR? I’d like to see them, maybe then I’d understand the whining on threads like this.

That's a very good question, SJackson. I know for an absolute fact that no one can say that I, even though I'm a black man, have ever defended the likes of Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Julienne Malveaux, Charles Barron (who mhking debated on Hannity & Colmes), Khalil Abdul Muhammad, Malik Zulu Shabazz, anyone in the CBC, or any other racist be they black, white, or whatever. And you never will. People like that are the antithesis of what I stand for everyday.

They all have their freedom of speech, including these girls in question. And I'm free to call them all exactly what they are.

If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.

[rdb3]

People here seem to neglect that 1) Most rap these days, esp the popular kind does not promote anything REMOTELY close to what these girls promote 2) The rap that did is no longer en vogue.

To be brutally honest, it's not "neglect[ed]" at all. What's occurring is not by mistake.

If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.

[SJackson]

That's a very good question, SJackson. I know for an absolute fact that no one can say that I, even though I'm a black man, have ever defended the likes of ...

You or pretty much else here.

I did post a a positive article about Farrakhan's farm in Georgia about 4 years ago, but it's lost in the archives. That's about all I remember.

The "no one condemns black racists" argument, to clear cut, genocidal racism, is a straw-man.

[Sender]

I know that you didn't accuse me of anything, I only wanted to assure you that any discussion of racial bias was just that; it was not a discussion of faith bias.

And yes; the message coming from the white separatists is a disparaging one combining both hatred of other faiths, as well as other skin colors. Hitler be damned.

[Sender]

Love your tagline, yes I have frequently stopped to think and forgotten to start again ;) Please FReepmail me when I fail to start again. It's old age creeping in.

[Romish_Papist]

That is not the point. These forums constantly point out the double-standards and the idiocy of the NAACP. This thread however, is NOT about those things. It is about two brainwashed racist little girls. There is no need to go on a tangent. Disgustingly, people here are defending this sick racism by saying, "But, but, but what about the NAACP..." or whatever. They are NOT the issue on this thread. Why is this so hard to understand.

And no, they are not doing this out of some sense of justice against a double standard. Watch the video clip. Their intent is clear. They are racists. I don't care if the NAACP or other organizations are, they are not the issue here.

Defending these girls is no better than the Left defending those other groups and organizations.

Sugar coating it by saying it's reactionary, especially when you can watch these little hatemongers on video is sick. Angels they are not. To defend them as such or to pretend they have some legitimate message about the "superiority of the white race" is vile.

[cyborg]

What a JOKE. Most people in this thread has zero problems pointing out the NAACPs problems except THAT IS NOT THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD.

[Skooz]

Disgustingly, people here are defending this sick racism by saying, "But, but, but what about the NAACP..."

Not even close.

To point out the obvious double standard is in no way to defend these hateful, goosestepping little demonoids.

The fact is this: The MSM and the popular culture at large consistently and obsessively give all black racists a pass when they spew thier hateful bilge. But routinely crucifies racist whites who spew theirs.

That's it. It's that simple. Merely pointing out that obvious truth is in no way an endorsement of the filth being put forth by these weird kids and their disgusting parents.

[Romish_Papist]

BS. Re-read expatguy's comments. And yes, people here are dismissing what these little Hitlerites are doing with the whining about the NAACP. Deny it at your leisure, but the fact remains.

[Skooz]

Yes, expatguy's comments could be construed as defending the girls. They could also be construed as defending the 1st Amendment. They could also be construed as merely reading the statements made by the girls at face value with no racist baggage attached (which is, I think, rather naive).

I tend to see their words as racist and advocating white supremacy because I have heard the neo-nazi whackos using similar language and I view their words thorugh that prysm. But, merely saying "we want to preserve our heritage" is not, in itself, a racist statement. If two black girls had said the same thing, would you even bat an eyelash? I doubt it.

As I read through this thread, I see no one--no one--advocating the sentiments expressed by the girls. But, I see much paranoia and name-calling among those who delusionally see racist anti-semites prowling in the shadows.

[Romish_Papist]

For crap sake, they are wearing Hitler T-shirts, playing shows for neo-Nazis and throwing Hitler salutes. Still see nothing to it?

[Skooz]

You obviously did not read my post.