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US troops fighting losing battle for Sunni triangle
The Daily Telegraph ^ | 10/22/2005 | Adrian Blomfield

Posted on 10/21/2005 7:01:20 PM PDT by 1066AD

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Now that we know where the b****ds are, go in shooting. Spare no one.


41 posted on 10/21/2005 7:26:25 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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From the article:

Perhaps fearful of public reaction in America, where support for the war is falling, US officials suppressed details of the Sept 20 attack, which bore a striking resemblance to the murder of four other contractors in Fallujah last year.

I guess it supposedly happened in Sept.

In Sept. we were engaged in Operation Saratoga. In that area.

43 posted on 10/21/2005 7:30:40 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: Termite_Commander
Let's pull all our troops out of Iraq, and nuke the entire country into oblivion.

Nice thought, but no can do. We are trying to hold the line, not descend into the abyss, whatever its attractions.

44 posted on 10/21/2005 7:31:10 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Stingy Dog
It's the an old story.

Yeah, all the way back to September 20.

I find it interesting that setting a living soldier on fire has received no outrage from anyone from the ROP, but there's a major firestorm forming because two Taliban bodies were burned.

45 posted on 10/21/2005 7:32:42 PM PDT by skip_intro
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To: Candor7
This incident is not a measure of who is winning the Sunni Triangle.

The measure is in the voter turnout in the Sunni Triangle. The Iraqui people deplore this incident as much as anyone.

Very insightful post. There are only pockets like this -- "one bad street." No problem then. Kill everyone in the street. Leave no orphaned son to harbor love of revenge. Hang them and burn the bodies.

If the Iraqi people deplore this incident, this is what they will do. I know that the only thing holding some of them back is our coalition support teams.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

46 posted on 10/21/2005 7:32:44 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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From the Saudi Press Agency (h/t littleredblog.com):

U.S. forces surround Iraq's Duluiya, arrest dozens

BAGHDAD, Oct 19, SPA-- U.S. and Iraqi forces surrounded the town of Duluiya north of the capital, Baghdad, overnight, raiding homes and arresting dozens of suspected insurgents, Iraqi National Guards said on Tuesday.
U.S. helicopters struck surrounding orchards where suspected insurgents were believed to be hiding out, witnesses said. There was no immediate word on casualties or comment from U.S. forces.

Duluiya lies about 20 kilometres (12 miles) south of Samarra, where U.S. forces carried out an offensive earlier this month to root out rebels ahead of elections planned for January. --SPA 0041 Local Time 2141 GMT


47 posted on 10/21/2005 7:33:30 PM PDT by wigswest
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To: skip_intro

Read the article again, it was supposedly a contractor (possibly an Iraqi) set on fire, not a soldier.


48 posted on 10/21/2005 7:34:20 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: 1066AD

BWAAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA....Ok now that I got that out of the way...


"...forced them to kneel on the street.

Killing one of the men with a rifle round fired into the back of his head, they doused the other with petrol and set him alight."
First of all, where is the "outrage" and the calls for an investigation for torture and abuse. Not to mention the multiple Geneva violations involved here. Seems to me something about muslims upset right now at how FOUL it is to ummmm burn bodies?

"As the lorries desperately tried to reverse out, dozens of Sunni Arab insurgents wielding rocket launchers and automatic rifles emerged from their homes."

I guess that about does it for the "innocent civilians" claims eh?

"The gunmen were almost certainly emboldened by the fact that the American soldiers escorting the convoy would not have been able to respond quickly enough."

Time to come out of the houses with rocket launchers and for kids to pile on straw but no time for the military to respond? *cough cough* bulls#@t *cough cough*

"The jubilant crowd dragged their corpses through the street, chanting anti-US slogans."

Some more "innocent civilians".

"An investigation has been launched into why the contractors were not better protected."

Oh, theeeerrrrres the investigation. FFS!

"Perhaps fearful of public reaction in America, where support for the war is falling......"

oh PULEEAAASE! The claims of falling support have been made for so long if they were true there would be no support at all today. This is jibberish. Oh and this stuff doesn't make Americans LACK support, it PISSES US OFF!garnering MORE.

"......US officials suppressed details of the Sept 20 attack, which bore a striking resemblance to the murder of four other contractors in Fallujah last year."

This is a pretty BOLD, not to mention unsubstantiated claim, funny how no officials are named. Fallujah tried to emulate Somalia too and they found out we didn't run away like CLINTOON did. I suppose if they seek to emulate fallujah, the more power to em. They will get the same result.

"growing difficulties" .... "Pinned down" ....."American soldiers are unable".....

Nah, no negative bias there at All! LMAO.

"urban strongholds"

Ummmmm, Geneva.....? Jeez.

"But hopes for progress are growing more remote."

ONLY in the eyes of people that wish the USA and the Iraqi majority to fail.

"Even routine patrols are fraught with danger."

In a W A R, wouldn't that be a bit of common sense?


"But, as is so often the case, the attacker had vanished down one of Dour's maze-like alleys."

Heck of an assumption there. Being that they come out of their houses with rocket launchers, it seems a a safer assumption would be that he simply went inside his house. ;)

"Nobody was hurt but the mutual distrust between the Americans and the local community deepened just a little bit more."

Now this REALLY doesn't make any sense.
Soldiers are there to FIGHT the ones these folks are afraid of. This causes them to distrust US??? That is about as Silly as it gets!


49 posted on 10/21/2005 7:34:42 PM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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To: wigswest

I think you will find that is from 2004. I saw it as well.


50 posted on 10/21/2005 7:35:05 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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aaahh, thank you!


52 posted on 10/21/2005 7:36:48 PM PDT by wigswest
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To: 1066AD
Duluiya, located in the notorious Sunni triangle, is much smaller than Fallujah but no less violent, even if events here rarely make the news.

I know there is a very rationale reason we haven't leveled these hellholes. I'm just curious what it is.

53 posted on 10/21/2005 7:38:34 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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Read the article again, it was supposedly a contractor (possibly an Iraqi) set on fire, not a soldier.

Right you are, but I'm sticking to the obvious ROP hypocrisy regarding burning bodies, especially living ones.

54 posted on 10/21/2005 7:39:40 PM PDT by skip_intro
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To: jmc1969

Well, we may have to do some rough housecleaning of our own at some point.

Something else I'd hope we could avoid -- but the anti-American crowd may force our hand someday.


57 posted on 10/21/2005 7:45:04 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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What we need is better PR


58 posted on 10/21/2005 7:45:42 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: Ramius

The Telegraph used to be what passed for conservative in the UK. Now they apparently have joined the cheerleaders for jihad.


60 posted on 10/21/2005 7:47:07 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist"--Sheikh Omar Brooks, quoted in the London Times 8/7/05)
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