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Cornell president condemns intelligent design
©2005 Syracuse.com ^
| 10/21/2005, 12:03 p.m. ET
| By WILLIAM KATES
Posted on 10/21/2005 10:26:36 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: dmz
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posted on
10/21/2005 12:37:10 PM PDT
by
mlc9852
To: mlc9852
It is an open mind - I just demand proof.You close your mind to science but don't demand any proof for your superstitions?
122
posted on
10/21/2005 12:37:34 PM PDT
by
shuckmaster
(Bring back SeaLion and ModernMan!)
To: RexBeach
He's a secular humanist. How's that? That's fine. So what?
To: orionblamblam
You took my post to quite a stretch, didn't you? I don't believe I have condemned anyone. That isn't my job.
124
posted on
10/21/2005 12:38:20 PM PDT
by
mlc9852
To: narby
Where does ID say evolution (depending on definition) is impossible? If you mean adaptation, then I don't think there is much argument. If you meant life was created out of nothing by nothing, then yeah, evolution is impossible.
125
posted on
10/21/2005 12:40:00 PM PDT
by
mlc9852
To: Bigh4u2
Just putting forth a 'theory' that the current intelligent civilization may have not been the first. You're not the first (and that's a hypothesis - not a theory, at least until there's some supporting evidence).
Giordano Bruno was probably the earliest to speculate on this.
Funny how "competing theories" were resolved in the Church.
126
posted on
10/21/2005 12:40:41 PM PDT
by
dread78645
(Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
To: orionblamblam
Hey - you stole my child's science project!
127
posted on
10/21/2005 12:40:44 PM PDT
by
mlc9852
To: orionblamblam
LOL!!! That cartoon pretty much sums it all up!
128
posted on
10/21/2005 12:41:27 PM PDT
by
shuckmaster
(Bring back SeaLion and ModernMan!)
To: mlc9852
And I see the evidence as pointing to God. I guess it's all in the interpretation. All I see is evidence pointing to the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
What's the difference?
129
posted on
10/21/2005 12:41:35 PM PDT
by
narby
(Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
To: Right Wing Professor
Well, he's not going to be too keen on the so-called "intelligent design" question and adhere very strongly to the evolutionary theory.
And, if Dr. Rawlings is a secular humanist, there is probably no role for God in his life. That's not good.
130
posted on
10/21/2005 12:42:36 PM PDT
by
RexBeach
("The rest of the world is three drinks behind." -Humphrey Bogart)
To: mlc9852
If you meant life was created out of nothing by nothing, then yeah, evolution is impossible. Right. Because that would not be evolution. Evolution would be the changes since that life began.
131
posted on
10/21/2005 12:43:39 PM PDT
by
Coyoteman
(I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
To: mlc9852
> I don't believe I have condemned anyone.
"Suppose you're wrong and we all have the last laugh."
Maybe you meant something else by this, but this is standard Creationist rhetoric. When the evolutionist refuses to bow to irrational superstitious drivel, accuse them of being evil and threaten them with Hell. Look at posts 74 and 75 for the genesis of that thinking on this thread.
132
posted on
10/21/2005 12:43:56 PM PDT
by
orionblamblam
("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
To: narby
You and your crazy Flying Spaghetti Monster - you have a fixation with that thing! I don't think I've even known anyone who believes in it. Tell me more.
133
posted on
10/21/2005 12:43:59 PM PDT
by
mlc9852
To: Dimensio
Natural law? Can you explain this further?a+b=b+a
oops guess i meant scentific law.
To: Jimmy Valentine's brother
Do you know the difference between a theory and a law in the context of science?
135
posted on
10/21/2005 12:46:01 PM PDT
by
Dimensio
(http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
To: Doc Savage
Would it strike any conservative (any true conservative - I'm not referring here to Patrick Henry) unusual that a far left CommuDem liberal "educator" who, as a secularist, is a firm believer in social Darwinism and doesn't believe in God, would make a statement like this???
In other words:
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posted on
10/21/2005 12:46:23 PM PDT
by
orionblamblam
("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
To: dread78645
" Funny how "competing theories" were resolved in the Church."
Yeah. I've read (somewhere) that the church is either in agreement with evolution or at the very least not against it.
I myself believe that evolution is a given, but 'creation' is not explained by it.
Is man decendended from apes? Possibly.
I just don't find the plausibility of it because apes still exist.
Maybe I'm just missing the 'link'.
137
posted on
10/21/2005 12:46:35 PM PDT
by
Bigh4u2
(Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
To: mlc9852
Where does ID say evolution (depending on definition) is impossible? ID claims that evolution of species (what creationists falsely label as "macro" evolution) is impossible. And because it is impossible, then an intelligence is their sole alternative (because they ignore the idea that some other natural process could be the cause *if* evolution was incorrect).
The whole foundation of ID is their claim that evolution is impossible.
If you meant life was created out of nothing by nothing, then yeah, evolution is impossible.
You believe that Adam was created out of nothing don't you?
But beside that point, you've been around these threads for long enough to understand that where life came from is irrelevant to the issue of evolution and common descent. Why are you pretending you don't know that? Are you dishonest, or merely can't remember discussions from previous days?
138
posted on
10/21/2005 12:48:21 PM PDT
by
narby
(Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
To: mlc9852
You and your crazy Flying Spaghetti Monster - you have a fixation with that thing! Actually, I don't think I've brought up the FSM idea on FR before. Why do you think I have a fixation with it?
I don't think I've even known anyone who believes in it. Tell me more.
I believe it for exactly the same reason you believe in God. Just because I do.
Look up in the sky mlc and point out to me where heaven is and the throne of God.
139
posted on
10/21/2005 12:52:33 PM PDT
by
narby
(Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
To: narby
Narby, Narby, Narby. I may be a lot of things, but dishonest about evolution - nope. I never said Adam was created out of nothing. He was created out of dust. Dust to dust, remember? And to keep saying evolution says nothing of how life began is just a silly way of saying you just don't know where it came from or how it started. The obvious answer is God but you don't buy that so I won't posit it. And I think it's wonderful how God created life to be able to adapt to changing circumstances.
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posted on
10/21/2005 12:52:54 PM PDT
by
mlc9852
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