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Myths About Gun Control
Real Clear Politics ^ | October 19, 2005 | John Stossel

Posted on 10/19/2005 8:06:17 AM PDT by texianyankee

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1 posted on 10/19/2005 8:06:30 AM PDT by texianyankee
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"The Centers for Disease Control did an extensive review of various types of gun control: waiting periods, registration and licensing, and bans on certain firearms. It found that the idea that gun control laws have reduced violent crime is simply a myth."

I am against gun control for law abiding adults.

But I have not seen anything like this from the CDC... I wonder what his source is.


2 posted on 10/19/2005 8:10:21 AM PDT by gondramB (Conservatism is a positive doctrine. Reactionaryism is a negative doctrine.)
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Sammy ''The Bull'' Gravano has, by his own admission, sent 19 men to their graves. So it's safe to say that the former underboss of the Gambino crime family knows a thing or two (or 19) about guns and violence.

That's why his remarks about gun control, published in Vanity Fair, have resonance.

"Gun Control? It's the best thing you can do for crooks and gangsters. I want you to have nothing. If I'm a bad guy, I'm always gonna have a gun. Safety locks? You pull the trigger with a lock on, and I'll pull the trigger. We'll see who wins."

-- VANITY FAIR 9/99 page 165 Sammy “the Bull” Gavano

3 posted on 10/19/2005 8:15:45 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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Read my tagline.


4 posted on 10/19/2005 8:17:06 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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http://www.cdc.gov/od/oc/media/pressrel/r031002.htm
5 posted on 10/19/2005 8:17:40 AM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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I noticed the same thing. I would also like to see the source.

Anybody?


6 posted on 10/19/2005 8:17:59 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (You upgraded to Linux? No, I'm not surprised your computer works properly now. Amazing, no?)
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Israel & Switzerland have some of the most lax guns laws in the world and their crime rates are very low...

on the other hand

Brazil & Russia have extremely strict gun laws and their crime rates are very high


7 posted on 10/19/2005 8:19:28 AM PDT by threeleftsmakearight
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"But I have not seen anything like this from the CDC... I wonder what his source is."

I am not sure, but maybe this is Stossel's reference?

CDCStudy

8 posted on 10/19/2005 8:22:11 AM PDT by texianyankee
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But I have not seen anything like this from the CDC... I wonder what his source is.

Possibly this:

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5214a2.htm

9 posted on 10/19/2005 8:23:10 AM PDT by elbucko
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It always makes me angry when the CDC chimes in on gun control, which is a political, NOT a public health issue. I guess AIDS, TB, cancer, avian flu, etc., aren't keeping them busy enough. It's just another bureaucracy that has abandoned it's stated mission for politics. It should be defunded.


10 posted on 10/19/2005 8:25:01 AM PDT by Spok (Est omnis de civilitate.)
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Man, I wonder how much we the taxpayers paid for this. Did you check out the conclusions? They really went out on a limb this one, really stuck their necks out and put their reputations on the line with their bold, sweeping pronouncements. Pay particular attention to column 2.


11 posted on 10/19/2005 8:27:06 AM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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thanks


12 posted on 10/19/2005 8:28:54 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (You upgraded to Linux? No, I'm not surprised your computer works properly now. Amazing, no?)
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bookmark


13 posted on 10/19/2005 8:29:45 AM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality - Miami)
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To: elbucko
The Task Force found insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of any of the firearms laws or combinations of laws reviewed on violent outcomes. (Note that insufficient evidence to determine effectiveness should not be interpreted as evidence of ineffectiveness.)

Waste of money, as always.

14 posted on 10/19/2005 8:30:24 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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Lots of insufficient evidence due to insufficient number of studies......


15 posted on 10/19/2005 8:32:33 AM PDT by texianyankee
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I don't have source material at my fingertips right now, but I remember reading that CDC concluded that the Brady Bill has reduced suicides in men over 55; I'm not joking about this...


16 posted on 10/19/2005 8:32:48 AM PDT by NRA1995 (When liberals speak I hear the Vonage music playing.....woo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo....)
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Liberals believe that outlawing guns will eliminate guns. There also believe that if abortion is made illegal abortion will still exist in a black market. Why is this?
17 posted on 10/19/2005 8:34:18 AM PDT by oyez
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That's why his [ Sammy ''The Bull'' Gravano]remarks about gun control, published in Vanity Fair, have resonance.

The "Sullivan Laws" of New York city have their origins in the need for organized crime to be able to go about its affairs unimpeded by armed citizens. In 1911 New York State Senator Sullivan was a member of the "mob" and passed legislation according to their needs. When the mob ran up against armed resistance to their protection and extortion rackets, they began to loose soldiers when shop keepers were armed. Sullivan passed a law that "protected" the protection rackets by disarming the shopkeeper.

18 posted on 10/19/2005 8:36:58 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: oyez

I have never heard it put that way. Excellent point!


19 posted on 10/19/2005 8:37:05 AM PDT by texianyankee
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To: ncountylee

It looks like somebody got a nice chance to catch up on thier sleep.


20 posted on 10/19/2005 8:41:09 AM PDT by oyez
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