Works for me. I wonder how it will go over with Judge Badfrog.
Posted on 10/18/2005 9:31:08 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
What the heck is a necessary pattern? Give me an example from biology.
It's hard to tell whether Behe does this through ignorance or willful dishonesty
It's sometimes a psychologically internal temporarily blissful symbiotic relationship.
It's generally accepted that spacetime can be multiply connected and that GR does not rule out time-like loops. One can conceive (vaguely I admit) of a future civilization that discovers a "time machine" and goes back to seed the early earth with life.
"Reminds me of sex."
You need to get out more often.
Behe didn't throw it away; he sold it.
I'm neither a mathemetician nor a biologist, but it is the occurence of an event that is both ordered and hugely unlikely to occur. Thus, for instance, if I were to place 27 ping pong balls in a vessel, 26 of them with a different letter of the alphabet and the 27th blank, withdrew one at a time, wrote down the letter on a piece of paper and, after 39 draws the told you that that the letters drawn spelled out: "to be or not to be that is the question", you could reasonably infer that my draw was not random.
Works for me. I wonder how it will go over with Judge Badfrog.
How much of these squiggly things depends on the pixels of your monitor?
I guess they should spend more time thinking than wishing.
Take a piece of foil (or other opaque stuff and punch a hole in it. Now check out A and B. Yup, they're the same. Surprising
I've been playing on these threads for several years, and I know from observation that there are only two issues that concern most freepers -- common descent and the age of the earth.Depending on your definition of common descent, I could very well be one.
I have been asking for a couple months now and have not been able to get a single freeper ID advocate to agree with Behe on these two points. - js1138
Assuming Behe actually takes such a position, I would disagree with him. If he does take such a position, it is hardly distinguishable from Darwinian evolution....
203 posted on 10/18/2005 2:29:13 PM PDT by connectthedots
Well that didn't last long
Every possible sequence in your random drawing is equally likely.
But evolution doesn't have a specified direction or goal, so you example is irrelevant.
In case you haven't noticed, your "necessary pattern" is indistinguishable from irreducible complexity, which is what we've been discussing. Go back a hundred posts or so and see why this is a useless concept.
You need to get out more often.
I think you meant to say: "You need to get more more often."
I could get rich betting against any freeper ID advocate being willing to accept Behe's position on common descent and age of the earth. Haven't seen one yet.
So we will have designed ourselves?
LOL
This 'useless concept" is exactly the concept applied by NASA in its SETI project. Whether it will find what NASA is looking for is open to serious disagreement, but its effectiveness as a filter is not.
I refuse to believe in sex (which is only a theory), until I know the origin of everything.
</creationism mode>
Behe believes the earth is ancient and common descent probable.
We all sell it in one way or another to make a living. It's the dishonesty that makes his case so egregious. As I said "shame" of the worst Asian type.
I thought they often were wrapped in a vesicle and "tagged" for transport to specific destinations.
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