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The (Nikola) Tesla Conspiracy (Junk Science/Energy Alert)
teslaconspiracy.com ^ | 2005 | Michael Finley & Mark DeMucha

Posted on 10/17/2005 11:54:08 AM PDT by add925

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To: X. OTerica
As a side note, there is in fact an atmospheric electric field that decreases with altitude. It has been demonstrated that this potential differential can lead to painful shocks when dealing with an isolated (ungrounded) vertical conductor e.g. pole, tower). However, I believe that the amperage is low and am not aware of it having been shown as a practical power source.

True, and the voltage gradient is substantial. Ben Franklin was on to something alright, even without a thunderstorm there are voltage differentials of a thousand volts per meter and the higher you go the greater the difference since the "ground" is your zero refference. But you are also right regarding the available current, it is micro amps. You can generate sparks and not much more, and be glad that all that happens!

Some years back I witnessed an interesting demonstration of an "electrostatic" motor, think DC motor then replace magnets with electric fields. Plus repels plus and attracts minus just like north repels north and attracts south. Same principle, just different construction. It turns out that you can get "free" power out of the air, off a kite string (wire), just not very much. As a matter of fact, it so slight that special pains have to be taken so that the rotor even turns. Like supporting the rotor by iron disks floating in pools of mercury to get the lowest possible running friction. The thing runs but so do those little light bulb shaped gadgets with the black and white pinwheel when exposed to sunlight. The amount of power developed is minuscule but it served as an interesting demonstration of engineering principles.

Regards,
GtG

81 posted on 10/17/2005 3:42:47 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: newcthem
His theories are all based on scientific fact, and sound research. Probably one of the greatest geniuses in the field of electrical engineering.

Wrong on the first point, right on the second. Tesla was like Michaelangelo or Jules Vern. He was a man out of his time and so far ahead of his contemporaries that his ideas could not have been based on research which implies prior art. "Everyone" knew how to build an AC generator (alternator) but so what "everyone" also knew that an AC motor was a physical impossibility! So much for fact and research, Tesla when told that it wasn't possible, sat down and designed the worlds first polly-phase induction motor in an afternoon. His ideas sprang from his mind as might a vision, fully formed.

Your second point is correct as stated with the possible exception of "one of". He was the man who invented the twentieth century. Without his poly-phase AC power distribution system, we would be looking at power plants spaced at twenty mile increments in both directions over the entire US. If you wanted to use Edison's DC that is.

Regards,
GtG

82 posted on 10/17/2005 4:59:06 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: add925
What would you say if I told you that for almost 100 years the technology has been available to provide the world with nearly free energy, an energy source that was self- renewing and virtually harmless to the environment? What would you say if I told you oil and energy companies were conspiring to keep these technologies away from us so that they can make maximum profits, regardless of the suffering it caused?

"Praise God, and pass the tinfoil," sounds about right.

83 posted on 10/17/2005 6:32:10 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Mohamophages of the world, unite!)
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To: X. OTerica
3rd Law: You don’t understand the rules of the game.

I thought his Third Law was, "You can't even get out of the game."

84 posted on 10/17/2005 6:44:45 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Mohamophages of the world, unite!)
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To: add925
What about the cooking oil reclamation? Granted, energy is needed to get it into that state, but its basically waste product afterwards that is disposed of.

Fine, if you own the restaurant. How much used cooking oil do you think is produced/day comapared to how much diesel is used/day?

Answer that, and you will have an understanding of the 'real' value of a gallon of used cooking oil; I doubt either of us could afford it.

85 posted on 10/17/2005 6:49:27 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Mohamophages of the world, unite!)
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To: netmilsmom

when was the last time you were there?

The Canadian side is a HUGE tourist attraction-many stores, restaurants, attractions...

The American side has an ugly highway next to it...


86 posted on 10/18/2005 9:54:00 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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To: ApplegateRanch

H-m-m-m, may I plead a "senior moment"?

After some digging on the web (which I should have done before posting - my bad) it appears that you are right.

Thanks for the correction!


87 posted on 10/18/2005 10:31:29 AM PDT by X. OTerica
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To: Mr. K

Geez, the last time I was there was in the early 90's.
The non-tourist part was what I liked. Perhaps I'll feel differently now when we visit again.


88 posted on 10/18/2005 10:57:30 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Happy 8th Birthday to my Net!)
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To: newcats

You are nearly correct he did write down most of his inventions and he did have many patents on his inventions such as the self generating electrical power system like the one he used in the 1931 Pierce Arrow.

He also had a patent on a wireless electrical power transmitter aka the so called death ray which some claim was the cause of the Tanguska devastation in 1908, by Tesla's own account the incedinet occured at the exact same time he discharged an electrical pulse of energy into the atmosphere into the same quadrant as Tanguska.

After which he dismanteled the equipment.

He also discovered the usefulness of negative ion rods in drawing electricity from the negative ions in the atmosphere there by creating FREE Electricity.


89 posted on 07/19/2006 11:28:08 AM PDT by Eletricfireman
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To: Eletricfireman; FormerLib

Welcome to FR!

You need to visit this thread just posted by FormerLib
Tesla's tragedy and Croatia
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1668711/posts


90 posted on 07/19/2006 2:14:17 PM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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