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Pa. professor [Behe] to testify in landmark case [Dover evolution trial, 16 Oct]
The Wichita Eagle ^
| 16 October 2005
| MICHAEL RUBINKAM
Posted on 10/16/2005 1:28:00 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: podkane
Ah, but I am talking about people who claim to live by the dictates of pure reason and the disinterested pursuit of the truth! Was Galileo ever threatened with being burnt at the stake? I think you are confusing the Roman with the Spanish inquistion.
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posted on
10/16/2005 9:32:15 PM PDT
by
RobbyS
( CHIRHO)
To: PetroniusMaximus; Stultis; narby
All forms of slavery are not equal therefore they are not equally condemned. Relativist sighting
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posted on
10/16/2005 9:37:34 PM PDT
by
Oztrich Boy
(Paging Nehemiah Scudder:the Crazy Years are peaking. America is ready for you.)
To: WildTurkey; shubi
Why? I always thought he added something to these threads. I don't know. I thought he always had some very insightful things to say about faith and science. With his in-depth knowledge of Hebrew and Greek, he made all these discussions much richer. Something he said must have ticked off the moderators.
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posted on
10/16/2005 9:43:04 PM PDT
by
curiosity
(Cronyism is not conservative)
To: CarolinaGuitarman; PetroniusMaximus; narby
Some FReeepers believe Individual Rights are the basis of the Right to own property.
Other FReeepers believe Property Rights are the basis of the Right to own individuals.
Why can't we all get along?
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posted on
10/16/2005 9:43:49 PM PDT
by
Oztrich Boy
(Paging Nehemiah Scudder:the Crazy Years are peaking. America is ready for you.)
To: RobbyS
Was Galileo ever threatened with being burnt at the stake? No. Just prison.
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posted on
10/16/2005 9:56:47 PM PDT
by
curiosity
(Cronyism is not conservative)
To: narby
After we get past that part where someone "owns" someone else, then what other "forms of slavery" are there? Well, there is the penal vs. chattel distinction. In the Roman Empire, slavery was sometimes punishment for certain crimes. I don't see anything morally wrong with penal slavery, provided the crime was sufficiently bad.
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posted on
10/16/2005 10:03:00 PM PDT
by
curiosity
(Cronyism is not conservative)
To: curiosity
Which, in his case, would have been more like a monk's cell. His crimer was more lese majeste than anything else. He pissed off a pope who fancied himself an intellectual. No, Pope Urban WAS an intellectual!
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posted on
10/16/2005 10:07:26 PM PDT
by
RobbyS
( CHIRHO)
To: CarolinaGuitarman
"So no, we won't shut up and let someone else dictate to us what the *truth* is when it flies in the face of the physical evidence." If you want to save face with critical thinkers, you need to be specific and show us what particular "truth" you perceive that others are dictating to you that flies in the face of physical evidence. Pin it down exactly. Otherwise, you'll continue to just look foolish.
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posted on
10/16/2005 10:14:16 PM PDT
by
Matchett-PI
( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
To: WildTurkey
What are you drinking tonight?
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posted on
10/16/2005 10:16:01 PM PDT
by
Matchett-PI
( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
To: WildTurkey
"Psalm 103: "The Lord God laid the foundation of the earth, that it not be movedforever." .....please provide me ..interpretation."Here you go. Knock yourself out. Hahaha
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posted on
10/16/2005 10:20:54 PM PDT
by
Matchett-PI
( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
To: Matchett-PI
If you want to save face with critical thinkers, you need to be specific and show us what particular "truth" you perceive that others are dictating to you that flies in the face of physical evidence. Pin it down exactly. Otherwise, you'll continue to just look foolish. BAM!You nailed it again. That is exactly what I have been trying to get across to the creos.
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posted on
10/16/2005 10:21:05 PM PDT
by
WildTurkey
(When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
To: PatrickHenry
Eugenie Scott, director of the National Center for Science Education [ http://www.ncseweb.org], said that he believes Behe thought he discovered something astonishing. "But no one is using irreducible complexity as a research strategy, and with very good reason ... because it's completely fruitless," he said. Ummmmm.. scuse me; but, isn't Eugenie Scott a "she". And isn't the National Center for Science education a little hole in the wall? LOL
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posted on
10/17/2005 12:40:13 AM PDT
by
Havoc
(King George and President George. Coincidence?)
To: Gumlegs
Ok, guess I was actually beat to it.. lol.
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posted on
10/17/2005 12:41:13 AM PDT
by
Havoc
(King George and President George. Coincidence?)
To: WildTurkey
There is a reason we have admins. And, sir, you seem to be one of them at the moment. That is revolting, disgusting, blasphemous, perverse and beneath contempt. I haven't read beyond this to see who else has taken you to task or how; but, this seems unsurprising in my short experience around you.
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posted on
10/17/2005 1:02:49 AM PDT
by
Havoc
(King George and President George. Coincidence?)
To: Gumlegs
and then covered the earth with false evidence. He didn't cover the world with "false evidence". He covered the world with people who, having independance of will, decide to spin the evidence rather than dealing with it honestly. Whether that amounts to lying, or speaking from ignorance would be the deciding factor. Evidence you see one way is explained readily in a Biblical fashion with no problem. That isn't exactly false evidence. What is false is the claim that the evidence is misleading. It isn't. Your theories get in the way of an objective analysis. Your theories and blind following of them pigionhole you into a position that can't lead you down any other path but the one you prefer. By cutting off your options, your tree of knowledge is a wreath. It may be shocking to you that it has produced club foot in your circles; but, to us, it's an expected end result.
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posted on
10/17/2005 1:14:53 AM PDT
by
Havoc
(King George and President George. Coincidence?)
To: longshadow
Festival of a dozen deranged trolls, placemarker.
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posted on
10/17/2005 4:31:28 AM PDT
by
PatrickHenry
(No response to trolls, retards, or lunatics.)
To: PetroniusMaximus
Didn't Jesus use the parable periodically as a means of making a point?
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posted on
10/17/2005 4:43:20 AM PDT
by
dmz
To: furball4paws; Gumlegs; js1138; CarolinaGuitarman; narby; WildTurkey; Dimensio; Stultis; b_sharp
I've picked the addressees for this post out of the last 200 posts of this thread. Until you people -- especially you -- can restrain yourselves, and stop responding to obviously insane trolls, science threads will continue to become cesspools. Under the circumstances, it's not worth the bother of finding articles and posting them.
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posted on
10/17/2005 4:53:57 AM PDT
by
PatrickHenry
(No response to trolls, retards, or lunatics.)
To: Oztrich Boy
" The Institure of Creation Research (I don't make this stuff up you know) has pointed out he was also a gun-nut who shot animals... And AIG has pointed out how Natural Selection is bad because it justifies free-market capitalism."
You have to remember that a lot of the people (not all, certainly) who consider themselves fundamentalists are NOT conservative on anything other than *social* issues. Economics, second amendment, foreign policy; it's all a crap-shot.
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posted on
10/17/2005 5:07:01 AM PDT
by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
To: Matchett-PI
" If you want to save face with critical thinkers, you need to be specific and show us what particular "truth" you perceive that others are dictating to you that flies in the face of physical evidence."
What do I believe as apposed to what Creationists demand? The earth is 4.5 billion years old, there was never a worldwide flood, we are all descended from a common ancestor... I think critical thinkers already knew what I was talking about, but that's just a few things.
"Pin it down exactly. Otherwise, you'll continue to just look foolish."
Coming from you, a verified liar and quote fabricator, I don't think I'll worry too much.
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posted on
10/17/2005 5:14:36 AM PDT
by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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