OCT. 13, 2005: A DIFFERENT TOPIC (Frum on the BS of the "Hitler's Pope" claim.)

National Review Online ^ | today | David Frum

[nickcarraway]

What was the population of Europe at that time?

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

60,000,000?

You might want to check some population statistics on medieval Europe a little more attentively. No serious historian supports that claim.

[Appalled but Not Surprised]

Does the book mention anything about the Ustachi and Catholic priests in soldier's uniforms torturing and killing millions of Serbs during World War II?>>

No. The information it contains is only truth, not lies.

[Rodney King]

Sixty million is only an estimate, because the perpetrators of the inquisitions were the ones in control of writing the histories. Finding the real number isn't possible.

60 million? How many people do you think even lived in Europe during the middle ages? Your source is on crack.

[Appalled but Not Surprised]

He got it with the aid of a proctologist with a flashlight.

[Rodney King]

From wiki: "Estimates of total population of Europe are speculative, but at the time of Charlemagne it is thought to be between 25 and 30 million, and of this 15 million are in Carolingian France."

It's amazing that the human race survived the Catholic Church. So far, roadtest has thrown around incredible accusations without the least bit of support.

[Appalled but Not Surprised]

It works out to 40,000 a year, every year.

FWIW.

[Victoria Delsoul]

That debate should at least be carried out without injustice to the memory of the voiceless dead. At this season of soul-searching and atonement, it seems clear to me that Dalin has exposed a very great injustice - and that Pius XII deserves to be numbered prominently among those honored in the Yad Vashem memorial to the righteous gentiles who saved Jewish lives during the Nazi Holocaust.

My sentiments exactly. I'll be reading the book as soon as possible.

[Victoria Delsoul]

How about making good on your posts and link your sources.

Let's see, you posted:

"Does the book mention anything about the Ustachi and Catholic priests in soldier's uniforms torturing and killing millions of Serbs during World War II?"

"BTW, that's why the Serbs attacked the Croatians when they got a chance."

"It's just that, if the Vatican killed up to 60,000,000 Christians, Jews and others through the Dark and Middle Ages and into the Reformation because they wouldn't convert, then I don't think that should be lied about."

By adding little comments to your unsubstantiated remarks like... “ I'm getting two 180 degree opposite reports of history” or “I'm not wanting to make anybody feel personally attacked,” doesn't make you less of a disrupter. So prove me wrong.

[Mach9]

You might want to differentiate between the Inquisition and the Spanish Inquisition--two entirely different "purges." But 60 million executions is beyond ludicrous. It was impossible. There weren't 60 million people in all of Spain, France, and Italy in the 15th century--much less "infidels."

[ELS]

Thanks. This book is already on my reading list (along with The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam).

[BlackElk]

RK: Thanks for posting this.

[Romish_Papist]

Much obliged for the post.