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Miers hitting the books in advance of confirmation hearings (Bork lessons were learned...)
Mercury News ^ | 14 Oct 05 | RON HUTCHESON

Posted on 10/15/2005 11:22:42 AM PDT by gobucks

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To: Cicero
The various articles and ABA presidential columns reveal a fluff-minded, cliche-driven lightweight.

I had an aunt who liked to converse and write personal correspondence that way, and somehow she managed to have a serious side too. So I know it's not impossible. You can see the same sort of stuff in CEO speak everywhere. You know that it doesn't encompass the thousandth part of what these high and mighty executives actually DO from day to day.

61 posted on 10/15/2005 12:22:29 PM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: Cicero
A few, evidently very few, freepers have read Miers's columns written while she was president of the Texas ABA. As many commented, they are at best fluff. They are dull, repetitive, naive, and cliched as well.

Even fewer have seen her so-called serious articles. Here's a list of links here. READ THIS STUFF, please, before you venture to say she's a wonderful candidate.

Articles By Miers


62 posted on 10/15/2005 12:23:36 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
Miers is a different kettle of fish [from Thomas]. She's a lousy candidate, as her own record and writings, slim as they are, amply confirm.

HOW exactly are Miers's qualifications a "different kettle of fish" than Thomas's?

I really, really would like specific answers to that question. I've been asking it for several days now, and nobody has come up with an answer.

(And yes, I'm aware Thomas had been on the federal bench for a few months prior to his nomination. But the evidence of his "scholarship" in constitutional law was at that time extremely "slim," too.)

63 posted on 10/15/2005 12:24:42 PM PDT by shhrubbery! (The 'right to choose' = The right to choose death --for somebody else.)
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To: USPatriette
"First time I've laughed out loud today. Thanks."


We, all of us, need to keep our sense of humor.


It will be a small comfort to us as we shoot, and are shot at, in the coming "Uncivil War".



64 posted on 10/15/2005 12:24:42 PM PDT by G.Mason ("Necessity is the mother of taking chances" ... Mark Twain)
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To: The Red Zone
Pay attention to her legal briefs which of course don't contain any of the airiness and lightness you so loathe.

The legal briefs in the Jones case are not definitively her work, and even if they were, they are pedestrian, and they shed little light on the preparer's judicial philosophy.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1502796/posts
http://rapidshare.de/files/6012929/Jones_v_Bush_-_Bush_and_Cheney_5th_Cir_Brief.zip.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1502903/posts?page=202#202

On that last one, read up and down the thread a bit, or follow the "replied to" and "replies" links.

65 posted on 10/15/2005 12:24:54 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Reagan Man

"Topped off by being personal legal council to the most powerful man in the world. Unless damaging evidence comes out or unless Miers screws up royal, she will be confirmed."

It is that obvious to me as well.


66 posted on 10/15/2005 12:25:06 PM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/Laocoon.htm)
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To: gobucks
It is said that this cannot be done:


67 posted on 10/15/2005 12:25:07 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: BillM

Unlikely--Roberts was also a corporate lawyer (specializing in Constitutional issues). It's a shame they can't do a mock trial with Miers and Roberts--if it were a serious fight, I'd feel a lot better about her, even if she lost.


68 posted on 10/15/2005 12:26:39 PM PDT by born in the Bronx
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To: Made in USA

You sound like a conservative protestant southerner. That I think is your first crime regarding all this "hate" we are witnessing.

But, in my view, bring it on. The more we see exactly who is in the GOP, revealed as they really are, the better.


69 posted on 10/15/2005 12:26:58 PM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/Laocoon.htm)
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To: Made in USA
I would like to post the below statement by the founder of Free Republic, Jim Robinson. He is my inspiration for coming on board FR a year ago and I hope some of those posters that have forgotten his words will start living up to his magnificent goals he set forth on this forum.

Have you seen his position relating to this nomination?

70 posted on 10/15/2005 12:27:41 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cicero

OK, I looked at the first one. It's a bit wordy, but it is perfectly clear.


71 posted on 10/15/2005 12:28:22 PM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: The Red Zone
"If these articles were the sum total of her proceedings there, you'd have a prayer... but that's a ludicrous thought."

no, not really. They're perhaps the most revealing thing that we have that are just about her. Other have tried to point to other cases (the slam dunk cheney residency case, for example) where she was just one of many lawyers handling a case. But there is nothing there to say what kind of legal mind she had.

But these articles are strictly her along. They reveal a sort of vapid, unoriginal mid-level manager filler-speak mindset.

It shows a kind of person who will write something meaningless to fill space and use banal phrases that avoid making any serious recommendations or criticism, in order to avoid taking an actual stand and risk offending someone and harming the sacred career path.

Basically, what is most damning is that almost absolutely nothing was said. No stand was taken. No originality.

Now, that might be nice when you're the staff secretary for most of your stay at the whitehouse, or counsel for less than the last year. You're doing what you're told to do and trying to get along with everybody.

However, when you're one of the 9 most powerful people in the country, and able to impact every aspect of American life, that's less desirable. If she chooses to go along with scalia and Thomas, just dandy, that's a free vote.

But what happens when scalia and Thomas are gone? Or if she drifts towards ginsberg and the other liberals?

People say she's loyal to the president, but once she's on the court, that loyalty is meaningless. She's as high as she can go, and she can't be removed from the bench. And come January 20, 2009, there isn't going to be a president bush in the oval office to be loyal to---she'll have to stand on her own.
72 posted on 10/15/2005 12:29:13 PM PDT by flashbunny (Loyalty is earned, not handed out.)
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To: curiosity

It is nice to see you posting outside the evo threads. So many of your peers find these waters .... unpalatable.

So, it is nice to see your alignment w/ the MSM characterizations....it is revealing. It is also nice to see standard run of the mill, repeated underestimation of GWB.

The more I watch this, the more I look forward to figuring out who it is that will swear her in. I doubt it will be Stevens.


73 posted on 10/15/2005 12:29:15 PM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/Laocoon.htm)
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To: Cicero
It's really an obligation that Freepers who support Miers should take. Read her writings. It's the least you can do before helping to put her on the Supreme Court for life. What kind of a woman is she? See for yourselves.

No. It is you who have to prove that her writings are not of the highest caliber. She is an excellent constitutionalist in the mold of the founcers, and will rule from the bench like Scalia, Thomas or Rhenquist. Trust me.

Sigh. Yet again. Round and round we go - and some are defending murky government process. I just don't get it. Guess I haven't been assimilated yet, I dunno.

74 posted on 10/15/2005 12:30:30 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cicero

I'm mostly anti-Miers too, and your point about the big team of lawyers in correct. However, she's the one who did the actual arguing, and according to her well-credentialed opponent, she did a fine job of it.


75 posted on 10/15/2005 12:31:38 PM PDT by born in the Bronx
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To: gobucks; Stellar Dendrite; flashbunny; Map Kernow; Do not dub me shapka broham

I'm overly concerned about her crash-coursing in Constitutional law before the hearings, every nominee preps I'm sure, so much as I am about how she will respond to critical questions such as her advice to the President on GWOT-related issues and whether she would have to recuse herself as an SC Justice if they came before her, having advised the President to establish certain policies and practices to begin with.


76 posted on 10/15/2005 12:31:49 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Made in USA
>>>>I am going to quit signing onto FR until this site regains it's original pride in supporting our President and not the opposition.

First off, this isn't a Republican website. It's a conservative website. Most FReepers support PresBush in his efforts in the WOT. In fact, most FReepers support Bush on most issues. However, if people think the President is wrong, they should respectfully speak out against him. Whether that be on policy or political matters. Political dissent is at the core of our first amendment rights. This political storm over the Miers nomination will pass.

77 posted on 10/15/2005 12:31:51 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: flashbunny
And come January 20, 2009, there isn't going to be a president bush in the oval office to be loyal to---she'll have to stand on her own.

It would be improper for her to lean further on Bush from the moment Justice Roberts administers the oath to her.

BUT she can still work as a team with the legacy that Bush respects, and so does she - Scalia, Thomas, and Roberts. That's much more than Sandra Day O'Connor would do.

78 posted on 10/15/2005 12:32:58 PM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: The Red Zone
It's amusing to see all the antiMiersbots wail and gnash their teeth.

Look at the bright side of this and the amusement obtained, for it to be an issue in the forefront of concern, is only available because of the directives from the White House for the last 6 years in maintaining this availability.

Because many are outspoken of this issue, it comes from the maintenance of our free society which is based upon free enterprise.

All who are p!ssed at the present situation with a single issue as this one, just envision the issues at hand if we would have had if Dubya' were to have lost the election in '00.

The availability of issues to focus on would be endless.

79 posted on 10/15/2005 12:33:08 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: Cicero

Funny, I read standard run of the mill work by someone who has been very careful to watch just exactly what her paper trial looks like.

But, if she is incompetent, as your thorough research provides, I'm sure this 'fluff' woman will sound fluffy, yes? She'll sound 'naive' yes? Dull too ... right?

So the worst case scenario is all the conservatives who are angry are right, and the nomination will be rejected by a 'conservative' senate, and then Bush will nominate the 'right' person, and that person will get confirmed and we'll all be one happy family again.


80 posted on 10/15/2005 12:33:46 PM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/Laocoon.htm)
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