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Crisis at Columbia: Nadia Abu El-Haj--When Jew-Hatred passes for "archeology."
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | October 10, 2005 | Hugh Fitzgerald

Posted on 10/10/2005 5:25:53 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: SJackson

IT stinks to high heaven how so many of these foreign born parasites with their Islamism and leftism have come to dominate some university departments. It's a welfare program for these America hating, Israel hating loudmouths.

Mid East studies departments are full of Muslims and foreigners. They are the majority, whereas 25 years a go American scholars were the Mid East professors.


21 posted on 10/10/2005 8:41:48 AM PDT by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: Berosus; blam; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Do not dub me shapka broham; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
Ping!
22 posted on 10/10/2005 9:41:32 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: RoadTest

Nailed it! Spot on!


23 posted on 10/10/2005 9:50:43 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Not a nickel, not a dime, no more money for Hamastine!)
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To: rmlew

ping


24 posted on 10/10/2005 10:00:26 AM PDT by Piranha
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To: SunkenCiv

The people calling themselves Palestinians should pack up and go back home to Jordan.


25 posted on 10/10/2005 11:35:06 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Islamicism should be grounds for deportation, and for blocking immigration.


26 posted on 10/10/2005 11:36:20 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: SJackson

Isn't it the Columbia school of journalism that maintains the CBS/Bush memos to be authentic?


27 posted on 10/10/2005 11:41:18 AM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: SJackson
There is not the slightest evidence that she has ever seen the work of Israeli archeologists, ever visited a dig, ever studied the history of the development of Israeli archeology, ever inquired as to how Israeli archeologists choose the sites they do choose for digs.........

Facts are so pre-modern, aren't they?

As is well known, in Islam there has been an almost total indifference to the non-Islamic or pre-Islamic world. Many of the artifacts of that world have been destroyed over 1350 years of Muslim conquest and subjugation

My own experience when travelling through western China along the Silk Road(s) was that many more artefacts (mainly Buddhist temples and graves) had been destroyed by local Islamic tribes during periods of religious fervor, than were destroyed during the Cultural revolution.

Luckily, a lot of the historical records were rescued (or stolen, depending on one's view) by pre-WWI and inter-war European and American archeological expeditions. (For those who are interested see "Foreign Devils on the Silk Road" by Peter Hopkirk).

.... those Buddhas were virtually the last remnants of the Greco-Buddhist civilization that Afghanistan had once possessed.

In Iraq, the old Sunni elites, trained by Gertrude Bell and others, did acquire a certain taste for preserving the pre-Islamic artifacts, and that seems to be the one exception – and an exception only among a very small sliver of Iraqi society – to the general indifference to any artifacts except those representing the time of Islam, not that of the pre-Islamic Jahiliyya.

The author may be correct about Afganistan (and Iraq) but he forgets to mention Pakistan. In the Swat valley in the Northwest Frontier Province Pakistani archeologists and historians have done a grerat job excavating, protecting and documenting the sites of the Greeco-Buddhist civilization which unfortunately has been erradicated in nearby Afghanistan. A dozen years ago I spent an unforgetable afternoon being guided by the curator of the Swat Archeological Museum, dr Ashraf Kahn, around a number of excavations in the area of Gilgit.

I pray that he and his co-workers and these sites haven't been hit by the recent earth-quake. (Although the epicentrum was quite close to Rawalpindi / Islamabad it seems from the scattered news reports that most of the damage has been in Kashmir and not along the Swat valley. However, I have long since given up hope that the MSM will províde correct and factual information...)

PS: Thanks for posting the article. The whole thing is of course disgusting, but we haven't come to expect anything else from the "academia" these days.

28 posted on 10/10/2005 12:44:18 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Will_Zurmacht
Oh great, I have to submit a review Said's Orientalism for class next month...

You poor bastard. (I had to review Michele Focault in french. I ended up dropping the course after positively enraging the teacher.)
Shoudl you feel the urge to confront the lunacy, I suggest that you deconstruct Orientalism as a piece of establishment political propoganda meant to impose Arabism, Cultural Marxism, and Occidentalism.
29 posted on 10/10/2005 5:20:16 PM PDT by rmlew (In Venezuela, they arrest you for protesting Hugo Chavez. At Columbia U, they merely threaten you.)
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To: Katya; Triggerhippie
Use of the terms "BCE" and "CE" are not indicative of political correctness. Rather they are neutral usage of the Western calandar without usage of the religious terms "BC" and "AD".
These later terms are religious assertions and articles of faith for Christians. "Before Christ, (before the Messiah), and Anno Domini (In the Year of Our Master/Lord) are terms that cannot be used in good faith by non-Christians. (For that matter, Unitarians cannot honestly use "AD".)

At any rate, use of these religious terms in the Middle East is explosive. Use of them is Israel is condecending to Jews and Samaritans.

Of course if you would preffer that people think of "BC" and "AD" as meaningless terms, then that is your right. Still, were I Christian, I would be quite more by a profane utterance of a religious statement, the belief of which is a foundational tenet of my faith.
30 posted on 10/10/2005 5:32:49 PM PDT by rmlew (In Venezuela, they arrest you for protesting Hugo Chavez. At Columbia U, they merely threaten you.)
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To: dennisw; Will_Zurmacht
Mid East studies departments are full of Muslims and foreigners. They are the majority, whereas 25 years a go American scholars were the Mid East professors.

Well the left used the charge of Orientalism to cleanse these departments. Orientalism is the charge that western studies of Eastern (particularly Mulsim) cultures as a inversion of Western culture. This "otherness" imposed on these non-Westerners supposedly forms the legitimacy of colonialism. Moreover, even supposedly "objective" study of these cultures merely creates propoganda or other tools for domination.

You must understand that to these people, objective facts and historical truths do not really exist (Deconstructionism). They are merely social constructs of the ruling class, meant to create cultural hegemony and preempt proper analysis by the intelligentsia or even self-awareness by the cultural proletariate. Hence, there is a need to free people from the false objectivity by means of Marcuse's Intolerent Tolerence. All sorts of revolutionary garbage and even deviationalism was and is allowed, so long as education can be a tool to mold students into the vanguard, and destroy the bonds of Western Society that have imposed a false social and cultural consciousness on the lower classes.
Effectively it is the charge of "Orientalism" that is the moral inversian and projection that allows the left to cleanse departments of their enemies by claiming that their opponents commited intellectual racism and cultural genocide, even if they do not realise it.

31 posted on 10/10/2005 5:56:51 PM PDT by rmlew (In Venezuela, they arrest you for protesting Hugo Chavez. At Columbia U, they merely threaten you.)
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To: rmlew; Katya
It is impossible to take religion out of the calendar. We still honor Roman Emperors (worshipped as gods) in our months and our weekdays are named after Norse gods. The Western (Gregorian) calendar was named after POPE Gregory XIII. Western civilization's singular commonality is (or at least was) Christianity.

"neutral usage of the Western calandar"?

Christ's birth is the FOCAL POINT of the Western Calendar, whether or not you are a Christian. The fact remains that BCE and CE are an attempt, largely by the left, to dishonor the one whose birth is reckoned as Year 0. I suspect most Christians don't care whether anyone else uses the terms A.D. and B.C. in "good faith."

If I wanted to go to China and insist on them renaming their calendar system so it doesn't offend MY sensibilities, I would expect someone to tell me to go to hell (and rightfully so!) Likewise, if I were to go to a synagogue in Jerusalem and expect them to make changes to suit MY tastes, I would also expect to be rebuffed. Further, if I were to try to tamper with the calendar in Mecca, being chastised would most likely take the form of the traditional "religion-of-peace" beheading.

We, in the Christian west, do not require that anyone believes in our Savior; we do expect, however, that OUR religious beliefs and traditions should be equally respected regardless of the outsider's belief system.

32 posted on 10/10/2005 10:51:23 PM PDT by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: SlowBoat407; cyborg; Rodney King; Piranha; Pitiricus; Seeing More Clearly Now; lancer; Ohioan; ...
Columbia Ping

PS. If any alumni are in town for homecoming and are willing to participate in activism, please Freepmail me.
33 posted on 10/11/2005 12:28:33 AM PDT by rmlew (In Venezuela, they arrest you for protesting Hugo Chavez. At Columbia U, they merely threaten you.)
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To: rmlew

I won't be in town for homecoming, especially since they banned tailgating.


34 posted on 10/11/2005 5:22:59 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Triggerhippie; rmlew
" Christ's birth is the FOCAL POINT of the Western Calendar, whether or not you are a Christian. The fact remains that BCE and CE are an attempt, largely by the left, to dishonor the one whose birth is reckoned as Year 0. I suspect most Christians don't care whether anyone else uses the terms A.D. and B.C. in "good faith."

I agree, succinctly put. Common era to me denotes it as just some date we all agreed upon as the year Zero.
Like it or not, there was no agreement, what happened was:

Our culture won.

35 posted on 10/11/2005 6:38:18 AM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: SJackson

The barbarians are inside the gate. The Melac program would be a joke if it weren't so dangerous to serious academic study.

What's next, a department of Nazi studies funded by anonymous donors?


36 posted on 10/11/2005 8:04:38 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: rmlew

Thanks for the ping.


37 posted on 10/11/2005 8:37:54 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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To: Katya
Our culture won.

Amen and amen.

Keep your powder dry, though. Other cultures aren't yet aware that we've won.

38 posted on 10/11/2005 4:13:41 PM PDT by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: SJackson
update:
Bid to deny tenure to Barnard prof More than 800 people have signed a petition seeking to deny tenure to a Barnard College professor accused of shoddy scholarship and a pro-Palestinian agenda.

Professor Nadia Abu El-Haj, an assistant professor of anthropology, is under from her book "Facts on the Ground." The book attacks the field of Israeli archaeology, arguing that it has produced knowledge central to the creation of Israel's foundational myths and therefore is complicit in Israel's supposed crimes against the Palestinians.

Paula Stern, a 1982 Barnard graduate and the organizer of an online petition calling on the college to deny tenure to El-Haj, claims the professor's scholarship is shoddy and her claims unsubstantiated.

"We are embarrassed that Columbia would consider granting tenure to a scholar who is so patently ignorant about the subject of her only book," the petition reads.

Neither Barnard nor its institutional parent, Columbia University, would confirm the status of El-Haj's tenure application.

39 posted on 08/15/2007 11:53:56 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, August 14, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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