Posted on 10/10/2005 5:00:39 AM PDT by gobucks
> Most of the great leaps in thinking in science began to take place until well after the Middle Ages, when the hold of the church finally began to loosen a bit.
More specifically, when the long-lost knowledge of the classical civilizations, including the basic precepts fo science, started to filter back into Europe from *the* *Arabs.*
No, in the sense that I.D. has no interest in replacing science, just destroying a false ideology which harms full and complete practice of science itself. Asking questions in today's reeducation camp environment is ok ... as long it is questions about accepted Darwinian Dogma. But to stifle questions outside the dogma - BECAUSE they are not 'scientific'? Have you ever noticed folks don't argue about gravity much? Why is that, but Darwin's 'logic' is so unpersuasive? Why are the bio sci classes never discussing why Darwin's Dogma is so upsetting, so hard to 'swallow', as compared to Gravity? WHERE ELSE are kids going to learn how to think? Oh, I keep forgetting ... learning how to think should be restricted to ... PHILOSOPHY class. That sounds really, really familiar. The USSR, Cambodia, etc, are examples of what you get if you meekly accept this kind of nonsense. So, how is this to happen?? But not firing a single shot. Yep, the Star Wars analogy is a pretty good one.
Excuse me, but the anti science crowd on this site routinely rejects physics, chemistry, geology, and astronomy.
Nearly all the anti-evolution crown on FR are completely unaware that the founders of the modern ID movement -- Behe and Denton -- accept common descent as a given.
Ummm... Because it's a fiction story made up and written down long after those kingdoms came to be?
> Have you ever noticed folks don't argue about gravity much? Why is that, but Darwin's 'logic' is so unpersuasive?
Because average people can watch a rock drop. But watching evolution happen takes rather more. The American public does not have much of an attention span. Certainly not enough to become educated about such a long-term process like evolution.
Creationism, however, takes about two seconds to explain: "God did it!", followed by one second of intense staring.
If you mean, have you ever noticed folks don't argue about Gravitational Theory very much (since the subject is the Theory of Evolution and not the laboratory-demonstrable physical phenomena of evolution or gravity), that's probably because most people aren't even sufficiently aware of such concepts as Frame Dragging or gravitons to even argue about them. I suppose if IDers wanted to make a big public spectacle of why Frame Dragging or gravitons are fraudulent theories that try to substitute Secular Humanist Physics for God, people would start questioning it, probably by misrepresenting the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics and quoting Einstein out of context.
As for evolution and gravity (lowercase), as a previous poster pointed out, people don't argue against gravity because they can see a rock drop. And anyone even minimally scientifically conscious doesn't argue evolution because they see it in action every day. People wouldn't be concerned about a cross-species jump of avian flu if not for a basic acceptance of the concept of little-e evolution.
"But watching evolution happen takes rather more. The American public does not have much of an attention span. Certainly not enough to become educated about such a long-term process like evolution. "
You don't actually mean to imply we're stupid?
Stupidity and ignorance are two completely different things. The most intelligent specimen on the planet can also be the most woefully ignorant.
Your posts just get funnier and funnier.
Keep reading them, and yours might start getting that way too!! :)
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> You don't actually mean to imply we're stupid?
Not generally. Just misinformed, and largely uninterested in complex scientific and mathematical issues. How many Americans have a realunderstanding of the motions of tectonic plates, or the mechanics of storm supercells? Either of these is quite a bit simpler than evolution. Cripoes, just look at how much money quacks make selling magnetic bracelets and the like. It's easier to trot out a few lines of gibberish about how magnets, or reflexology, or chiropractic make you healthier; it's a lot harder to explaisn why those don't work. Similarly, it's alot easier to say "God did it" than to explain the vast and subtle evidence for evolution spread over a number of fields of study.
Does this mean people are stupid? Nope. Just means science ain't for everybody. The same guy whose eyes would glaze over if I started to prattle on about asteroid deflection methodology via nuclear pulse driven momentum transfer, could probably talk me into a coma about football, tax law, selling insurance, farming or church politics.
Change from base ten to base three?
"Now let's check the age of this tree by counting rings. 1, 2, 10, 11, 12, 20, 21, 22, 100, 101, 102, 110, 111..."
If a tree rings, answer it.
If I have 220200 emblazoned on my forehead, should I be worried?
A three paragraph statement was read about Intelligent Design, so the ACLU sued. Evolution is only a THEORY. There is no REAL proof to back it up.
Background Information
In Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District, the ACLU is suing the school board of Dover, Pennsylvania for adopting a policy that requires students to be informed about the theory of intelligent design. The ACLU claims that the Dover policy violates the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment by promoting a religious doctrine. While Discovery Institute does not support efforts to require the teaching of intelligent design in public schools, it also strongly opposes the ACLU's attempt to censor classroom discussion of intelligent design. The trial begins on Monday, Sept. 26 in federal court in Harrisburg, PA.
http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/index.php?command=view&id=2879&program=News&callingPage=discoMainPage
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