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I was wrong; so please join me in supporting Harriet Miers.

Posted on 10/09/2005 3:28:25 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

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To: Sam Cree

Yes, probably sometimes great intellects get caught up in fine but extraneous points that the lesser exalted don't even notice. As Hayek put it, sometimes great intellectuals overvalue their intellects.


621 posted on 10/09/2005 6:58:05 PM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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To: Soul Seeker

There was no opportunity to force a vote on the nuclear option, the DEMs caved and stopped filibustering. and haven't filibustered since. There was no way to invoke the nuclear option once the RATS stopped the tactic. The threat of filibuster isn't enough.


622 posted on 10/09/2005 6:58:27 PM PDT by RobFromGa (Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran-- what are we waiting for?)
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To: Pukin Dog

You've made some very good points. I only hope Bush gets the chance for another appointment, maybe even 2. (We can hope after all).


623 posted on 10/09/2005 6:59:19 PM PDT by MomwithHope
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To: Pukin Dog
the nut from Mississippi who thinks he can actually get his leadership position back

Oh, you mean Trent Lott, the Republican Senator who voted for Clinton's Ruth Bader Ginsburg appointment but "has questions" about Buch's Harriet Miers choice.

624 posted on 10/09/2005 6:59:43 PM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: Pukin Dog

Good post PD. I recently sent email to Rush Limbaugh after he somewhat complained about GW and some of his policies/decisions:



Rush...Rush...Rush,
Concerning our President's Supreme Court appointees and other concerns.

Sometimes when too close to the forest, you dont't see the trees. I think that under an alias, George Bush is a 24/7 member with pod casts, subscribes to the Limbaugh Letter and probably has some "orange jump suits" in his closet.

He has heard you state that the Democratic Party is imploding and will dwindle to only a few to remind America of what they were, like monkeys in cages at the local zoo. His strategery is the total destruction of the Democratic Party. He spends a lot, appoints unknowns to the Supreme Court, allows Teddy Kennedy and Bill Clinton to think that he actually trusts them. It's the "Big Picture" that you describe often.

How many times do you have callers stating that they used to be liberals, but after hearing their liberal congress critter screaming idiocy they have switched parties? Multiply that by thousands that didn't get through to the EIB studio. Our President is having those cages built for those liberals like Kennedy, Harry Reid, Chuck Schumer, etc..

Another course of action would be to use the nuclear option, but that could cause many lucid Democrats to assume that Republicans are evil like the libs say. Spending looks like it's out of control at the moment, but may be a good investment if the total destruction of their party is seen. With only a few libs left in their cages in Congress, ANY conservative agenda can fly through with nothing but praise from a strong majority of Americans.

On Iraq, as you have stated, the Big Picture is establishment of Democracies in that region. Expensive, yet a good investment for the World's future.

God bless you, God Bless George Bush and God Bless America. ( A lot of God going on here...... Part of the Big Picture)


625 posted on 10/09/2005 7:00:24 PM PDT by Mark (Proven scientific experiment: The NY Times flushes easily down the standard toilet.)
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To: TheHound

There is no reason we can't fight now.

The problem is the administration has calculated, wrongly imo, that the price for fighting is too high.

And, no, I don't buy those stating they are afraid of a nominee being defeated. I'm talking about high stake gambles.

I truly believe the losers in the Senate would threaten to withhold funding for the WOT.

My belief is that when a bully threatens you, you stand up to them. Get a little bloody, but you bloody them as well. But on this, we have the upper hand with the majority of their constituents that will kick their butts in the elections.

Take the offense and go to the American people. Call the weasels bluff, but keep the evidence to put them on the hot seat if they try to follow through with the threats behind closed doors.


626 posted on 10/09/2005 7:00:38 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Barbour/Honore in '08)
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To: Pukin Dog
Hmmm... I like you're logic..
I may stand down to re-assess my jihad..
Thanks for the candid un-opus...
{re-assessing}
627 posted on 10/09/2005 7:01:06 PM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: Soul Seeker
If the W.H. knows Miers to be an originalist...

1) I have no evidence she is an originalist.

There is a small amount of evidence that suggests she may be an originalist. But it certainly isn't conclusive at this point in time. The hearings may help on that.

But you didn't answer the question I asked you.

If the president knows Miers to be an originalist, then wouldn't the best thing for him to do would be to nominate Miers and save the weasel smoke for another fight?

628 posted on 10/09/2005 7:03:20 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: RobFromGa

There was an opportunity to force the filibuster. We still have people being filibustered right now. All Frist has to do is bring them to the floor for a vote. he has chosen not to do so.


629 posted on 10/09/2005 7:03:29 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Barbour/Honore in '08)
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To: pollyannaish

It's OK ;-)

621 was meant for you, sorry I messed it up somehow.


630 posted on 10/09/2005 7:03:52 PM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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To: Sally'sConcerns
It may strike you as someone who's starved for attention but to me it's his way of not getting lost in the crowd because most everyone enjoys reading a good opus.

That's exactly the problem with the people in Washington, especially those in Congress. Instead of representing those that elected them they think of themselves and and feed their own ADD.

Let's move everyone in gov't in Washington to New Orleans (except the military folks) then blow the levees up...

631 posted on 10/09/2005 7:04:17 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Don't get stuck on stupid - Lt. General Honore)
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To: TheHound
As I said: Who are you? As we delve deeper - there is this matter of the "current ruling class" which is "subverting the constitution" - Could you possibly enlighten me in this area?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/user-posts?id=18066

My present beef is the 60 vote supermajority for confirming nominations.

The "ruling class" are those who the people have elected to office. The lazy people want to be lead, and are easily mislead.

632 posted on 10/09/2005 7:04:41 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: DrDeb
BTW: Spector has indicated that he plans to 'grill' Miers on her pro-life bona fides -- he's quite worried that she'll actually vote to overturn Roe v Wade. [Note: Spector is threatening Dr. Dobson as we speak/write -- he wants to know what assurances the President gave him (Dobson) concerning Miers' pro-life orientation . . . Spector is NOT a Miers supporter!!]

And Specter knows full well she can't comment on cases that may appear before her. Point is, she has no paper trail that proves she is pro or con. As for Dobson, let them go ahead and bring him in. What does his big-time talk have to do with her? She never said anything.

633 posted on 10/09/2005 7:05:32 PM PDT by Hattie
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To: Republic of Texas

Neithr you nor I are Olympia Snowe's constituents. She answers to the voters of Maine, who are far more liberal than Texans or Hoosiers.


634 posted on 10/09/2005 7:05:36 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Miss Marple
Neithr you nor I are Olympia Snowe's constituents. She answers to the voters of Maine, who are far more liberal than Texans or Hoosiers.

Not all of us.

635 posted on 10/09/2005 7:07:11 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Jim Noble
They either inherited money, or made money nonproductively (in finance, for example).

You left out "married money"! (I'm from MA.)

This elite non-producing class has certain common prejudices and beliefs. Of all of them sexual "freedom" and the corollary "right" to kill undesired babies is one of the strongest.

There does seem to be an element of "the soul of the hive" about libs/Dems (I forget what that's from, though I think Chesterton used it) -- aren't bees said to act as if they all think almost as one entity?

Abortion really is the linchpin, and I'm not sure I understand completely why. People complain about single-issue voters and litmus tests, but attitudes toward Roe really are a pretty reliable indicator of strict constructionism or originalism vs. the "living document" Constitution. Even the women's magazines (which I stopped reading years ago so I don't know if they still do) did at least for a while champion the "I wouldn't have one myself, but who am I to say for anyone else" cop-out, a variation of the politicians' "personally opposed, but. . . ."

There really is the scent of Satan about it. (You can check my posting history -- this is not a charge I throw about lightly.) I recall a footnote I saw in a Shakespeare text in grad school, I think to The Tempest, that explained that the recurrent anti-witch hysteria of the time was largely attributable to the popular belief that witches could induce miscarriage.

636 posted on 10/09/2005 7:07:32 PM PDT by maryz
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To: FreeReign

No, because...

1) We have no guarentee of another opening.

2) Once the primaries heat up, he'll be weakened in influence. People will be sparring to cosy up to the possible new president of the United States and unless that person is close to G.W.B., and his positions, they'll syncophantly betray the President forthrightly.


637 posted on 10/09/2005 7:07:56 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Barbour/Honore in '08)
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To: holdonnow

Im wondering what you think of this thread?


638 posted on 10/09/2005 7:09:52 PM PDT by woofie (Trying hard to become another Buckhead)
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To: Soul Seeker
The Dems' benefit from party disciplined established by their former party leaders.

Do you have any insights into how they established it?

639 posted on 10/09/2005 7:10:52 PM PDT by maryz
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To: Sam Cree
As Hayek put it, sometimes great intellectuals overvalue their intellects.

Brilliant. I know so many examples of that in real life.

I can not even begin to tell you. For them, not knowing the janitor's name is a sign of great importance. Most I know are on the left, but I think that the right flirts with this from time to time as well.

I believe they are often people more infatuated with the gravitas of the question, than the value of the answer.

640 posted on 10/09/2005 7:13:37 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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