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Bush voters say nation going in wrong direction
The Houston Chronicle ^ | Oct. 8, 2005 | WILL LESTER

Posted on 10/08/2005 7:35:16 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem

The RATs and the MSM are stuck on wishful thinking again. Dean is now trying to imitate the Republican victory tactic of last election and trying to figure out how the RATs can be winners again. It's up to all of us to make sure that we never see the RATs in power again. Just keep the image of the likes of the Clintons, Read, Dirty Harry, Dean, Kennedy, Schumer, and Kerry in power! GAG!


221 posted on 10/09/2005 9:43:35 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: neverdem
But it wasn't the only question, right?

But none of the other questions were a follow up to this question.

222 posted on 10/09/2005 9:58:55 AM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: murphE
But none of the other questions were a follow up to this question.

Was there no question which asked about your political preferences, preferred candidate or party affiliation?

223 posted on 10/09/2005 10:08:08 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: rdb3
What you described is precisely what you do, yourself. You go from thread to thread with the same nonsense.

What are you talking about? You attack me in #213 for voicing my opinion. You do this to people all day long every day.

224 posted on 10/09/2005 10:23:55 AM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: rdb3

And I wasn't even post to you. You come out of the blue getting personal because you don't like my opinion. Pathetic.


225 posted on 10/09/2005 10:25:08 AM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: rdb3
This is what we call "PROJECTION!"

Bull. This is what you call rdb3 running from thread to thread attacking others and getting personal just because you disagree with their opinions. This is what you do. LOL!

226 posted on 10/09/2005 10:27:58 AM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: Black Tooth
I'm loving how you're making a complete fool out of yourself. So, don't mind me. Continue, please. Retread.


If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.
They're going fast!

227 posted on 10/09/2005 10:32:36 AM PDT by rdb3 (Have you ever stopped to think, but forgot to start again?)
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To: rdb3
No I am a fool?

Hurry rdb3, someone on another thread somewhere is probably saying something you disagree with. Run along and go get personal with them. Feel free to call them scoundrel's and fools if their opinions. Differ from yours. Better hurry!
228 posted on 10/09/2005 10:38:08 AM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: Black Tooth
Awww...

Now you're squealing like a little girl. Man up! Don't bitch out on me now. If you can dish it, you better be able to take it.

It's real out here on the battlefield!


If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.
They're going fast!

229 posted on 10/09/2005 10:41:42 AM PDT by rdb3 (Have you ever stopped to think, but forgot to start again?)
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To: rdb3
It's real out here on the battlefield!

Look, if I were to get personal with you like you are doing right now with me as you do many others, I'd get banned in a second. I would verbally jack hammer you. But you are one of those I was told about, that is above the rules here, and do what you please. Getting personal is suppose to be against the rules here. Notice the AM is no where to be seen? Like the cops in many situations, my hands are tied, and people like you, routinely get a pass.

230 posted on 10/09/2005 10:47:19 AM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: Black Tooth
Look, if I were to get personal with you like you are doing right now with me as you do many others, I'd get banned in a second. I would verbally jack hammer you. But you are one of those I was told about, that is above the rules here, and do what you please. Getting personal is suppose to be against the rules here. Notice the AM is no where to be seen? Like the cops in many situations, my hands are tied, and people like you, routinely get a pass.

Where'd you get this idea? It's not true at all, but I'd still like to know. Who told you what?

Come on, now. Man up! Let it out and let's see where it leads.


If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.
They're going fast!

231 posted on 10/09/2005 10:56:29 AM PDT by rdb3 (Have you ever stopped to think, but forgot to start again?)
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To: rdb3
Where'd you get this idea?

Lets see now?? Where would I get this idea??

How about the last 6 posts?

What don't you get about getting personal and breaking the rules?

232 posted on 10/09/2005 11:00:12 AM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: G Larry
Oh ya, these polls do a great job of distinguishing the difference between "The nation" going in the wrong direction, and "The President" going in the wrong direction....

Please read the title again. It says "Bush voters say nation going in wrong direction", not the usual reference to the general public. Most polls never get that specific because the numbers aren't there for the sub-group analysis to be considered significant. They're claiming it here. Please read comment# 93. If I could access the poll, I would, but you have to be a subscriber. http://www.ipsos-na.com/news/ap/

233 posted on 10/09/2005 11:23:33 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Aquakat
[Although your metric you are using is true it is the wrong indicator and is misleading. You are diluting the impact of controllable spending with mandated/ongoing entitlements expenditures.
Table 7&8 are the only relevant data sets for the context of this discussion namely growth of gov. or run-away spending. These tables are of DISCRETIONARY SPENDING the spending by definition that is controllable and the metric that results in indicating gov. growth and spending.]


I understand why you focused on the discretionary spending because that is what is controllable by Congress and the President and the discussion is about just that, but I used the total expenditures for a specific reason; that is what affects the economy.

As far as the negative drag on the economy that results from filtering our money through the federal government is concerned, whether the spending is discretionary or not is irrelevant. The economy feels it the same, and I was only making the case that total year to year growth of government spending is not out of line with what is reasonable.

And when comparing Bush 41 to Clinton to Bush 43, that's not the whole story, because the real motivation for controlling spending growth in the middle 90's was federal spending caps enacted by Newt Gingrich and his followers when they "took over" the House. Newt is gone now, along with his fiscal responsibility, when he was thrown overboard by moderate Republicans, with the approval of most grassroots Republicans in order to try to make the Republican Party more appealing to Big Network Media.

Personally, I'd like to see a lot more of us fiscally responsible minded voters making a whole lot more noise to our representatives (both in Congress and the President) about bringing back spending limits, but I just don't see it as being all that important to the average voter, and that's disappointing.
234 posted on 10/09/2005 12:57:23 PM PDT by spinestein (Forget the Golden Rule. Remember the Brazen Rule.)
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To: neverdem

K
Post 93 is fine.
Is my point less valid?


235 posted on 10/09/2005 2:57:18 PM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: PositiveCogins

"Yes I did. How did you Know?"

It figures.


236 posted on 10/09/2005 8:33:38 PM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: Souled_Out

"The rest are real men and are probably used to having to fight for what they get."

And so it's perfectly all right to go ahead on dump negativism on them anyway? I'm sort of glad I don't have any friends like you.


237 posted on 10/09/2005 8:36:38 PM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: cmotormac44

"My best regards for your son and cousin. . .--well, here is one old man, WW2 combat vet, . . ."

We're proud to know you, sir. You're in the generation who raised me, taught me in school, coached my teams, taught me in Sunday School.

Thank you for all YOU did for us.


238 posted on 10/09/2005 8:41:13 PM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: righttackle44
"And so it's perfectly all right to go ahead on dump negativism on them anyway?"
Standing up for what you believe and questioning issues rather than following blindly is "dumping negativism"?

I'm sort of glad I don't have a father like you.

239 posted on 10/09/2005 8:45:47 PM PDT by Souled_Out
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To: Aquakat

"Thanks goes to you as well as you have/are going thorough hell with your concern for your son."

Thank you for your words. God bless you.


240 posted on 10/09/2005 8:46:43 PM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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