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Porter Goss makes changes, waves at CIA
Associated Press ^ | Oct. 08, 2005 | KATHERINE SHRADER

Posted on 10/08/2005 9:08:21 AM PDT by george76

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To: noah

I'm no genius, but I could see the big picture from the start; that after Afghanistan, Iraq had to be next. Iran is now surrounded, and we are that much closer to Syria. Iraq was do-able, and why not, considering the constant violation of the NO-FLY-ZONE, nevermind the UN sanctions!

The rest - I do not understand.


21 posted on 12/09/2005 5:03:13 PM PST by Solamente
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To: george76

This is well overdue. CIA is like most other federal agencies , in that its workforce is aging rapidly, and most workers cut their teeth during the Cold War when CIA was opposite a well-funded institutional intelligence apparatus.

Now that the game has changed, and we're trying to gain intelligence on many loosely organized groups, the CIA needs massive change.

Personally, I'd favor disbanding CIA and reconstituting it under military control like the NSA. But since that isn't politicaly feasible, what Goss is doing sounds like good medicine.


22 posted on 12/09/2005 5:13:42 PM PST by mikenola
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To: george76

"Richard Kerr, a former CIA deputy director who led a review of the Iraq intelligence for Tenet, said he does not have the impression that Goss has inspired the organization's full confidence.

"It's a leadership issue. How do people perceive you?" Kerr said. "I am concerned about people with limited experience running large and complex organizations.""

Yeah. Let's let the people who have been failing for 30 years evaluate him.

I think Goss is great!

One of Bush's best moves.

Wish we could clone him and send Goss2 to State


23 posted on 12/11/2005 7:58:49 PM PST by strategofr
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To: Cicero; harpo11; maine-iac7; outlaw1_2003; coldwar; FearGodNotMen; Mathemagician; Wolverine; ...

"The more waves the better. When Goss took over, the CIA was a cesspool of clintonoid corruption and incompetence."


Agreed. This is great news.


To exit from my Ping list, just send me one request to that effect, public or private.


24 posted on 12/11/2005 8:02:50 PM PST by strategofr
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To: noah
Andrea Mitchell, quoting the NYT, who undoubtedly got it from the CIA, says Bush used information gotten from torture which subsequently proved to be false, before Bush used it to make the case for war against SADDAM. Where's Porter Goss??

I don't know whether that is true or not but considering that Andrea Micthell and Chris Mathews said it, quoting the NYTimes, I would think that it is not.

25 posted on 12/11/2005 9:31:38 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: strategofr

Yes, this is good news.


26 posted on 12/12/2005 4:30:53 AM PST by Alia
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To: Dog Gone

Goss and Miers are worlds apart. Goss has a lifetime of experience specific to his present role. I've watched his career for quite a while now, being from FL.

Please don't make me resurrect all of Miers' shortcomings. Alito makes a lot more sense.


27 posted on 12/12/2005 4:40:47 AM PST by ovrtaxt (The FAIRTAX. A powerplay for We The People.)
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To: GWB00
Limpiando la casa! This is what I think Rumsfield and Rice are also doing in their departments.

yes and -- U.S. Ambassador John Bolton's in UN and Chief Justice John Roberts in the courts Finally
28 posted on 12/12/2005 5:03:09 AM PST by LynnHam
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To: george76
Fights between top CIA managers and Goss' inner circle are spilling into public view. Veterans are retiring early

Good! Now if someone can make the same thing happen at the Department of State we will really be getting somewhere!

29 posted on 12/12/2005 6:05:27 AM PST by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: george76
If they don't support the president, the war on terror, or Goss, show them the door. Tell them the days of stabbing the president in the back are over and to hit the road.
30 posted on 12/12/2005 6:09:14 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: TheForceOfOne

"If they don't support the president, the war on terror, or Goss, show them the door. Tell them the days of stabbing the president in the back are over and to hit the road."

Agreed, but it's beyond that. Some of these guys need to be shown the door no matter what they say now---based on what they've done in the past and what it shows us about their true colors are.


31 posted on 12/12/2005 8:55:48 AM PST by strategofr
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To: Bigun

"Fights between top CIA managers and Goss' inner circle are spilling into public view. Veterans are retiring early

Good! Now if someone can make the same thing happen at the Department of State we will really be getting somewhere!"

I agree with your sentiments 100%. Unfortunately, it seems quite likely by now that Condi will do absolutely nothing in this regard. In the Gaza matter, the State Department continued its completely shameful behavior, with no noticeable disapproval from Condi (or Bush).

The whole Israeli withdrawal from Gaza was predicated on the notion that Egypt would police the situation after it happened. The Israelis did this, in my opinion, not because they trusted the Egyptians to be honorable, but because they trusted the US to force the Egyptians to be compliant. This we could have easily done considering the fact that we now give the Egyptians $3 billion a year in aid. However, the Egyptians did absolutely nothing to police the situation, and to my knowledge the US has never delivered even a single word of disapproval to them. Condi's apparent failure in this regard to control, or even try to control, the State Department is appalling. As is Bush's apparent failure to be aware of what has happened, or if aware, to do anything.


33 posted on 05/06/2006 3:00:58 PM PDT by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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""If they don't support the president, the war on terror, or Goss, show them the door. Tell them the days of stabbing the president in the back are over and to hit the road."

Well obviously the days of stabbing Bush or for that matter Porter Goss in the back are not over."

Agreed, nor can they ever be over. The soldiers of the Left have their orders and will continue to carry them out.


34 posted on 05/06/2006 3:02:21 PM PDT by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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