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HARRIET MIERS WRITES -- YEESH
National Review Online -- The Corner ^ | October 8, 2005 | John Podhoretz

Posted on 10/08/2005 8:52:39 AM PDT by JCEccles

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To: Fenris6
Actually, one made a similar comment to yours questioning her intellectual credentials -- fortitude or otherwise. Another wondered if the first actually made that statement and the other did not believe people were questioning her intelligence and I used the first as an example.

So, no, not for backup.

221 posted on 10/08/2005 3:40:29 PM PDT by AmishDude (Proud inventor of the term "Patsies". Please make out all royalty checks to "AmishDude".)
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To: AmishDude
Mental fortitude and measurable intelligence, while sometimes present in the same individual, are not necessarily synonymous.

Someone can be a member of MENSA-and as I've alluded to in earlier posts, I'm not gainsaying the intelligence of this nominee-and yet not have the intellectual courage to defend their ideas.

Without that, their intelligence is of little practical application.

222 posted on 10/08/2005 3:44:00 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("I'm okay with being unimpressive. It helps me sleep better.")
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To: Maceman; marktwain; EveningStar

I'm coming into this discussion a little late, but I had a thought. What would be the value of nominating someone to go through all this hooplah just to have this someone turned down? Would it ease the nomination of President Bush's second choice? Is it feasible to suspect this may be going on so that the person he really wants in there has a better chance?


223 posted on 10/08/2005 3:44:23 PM PDT by GummyIII (If you have the ability, it's your responsibility." Marine Sgt. John Place, Silver Star recipient)
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To: AmishDude
"Another wondered if the first actually made that statement and the other did not believe people were questioning her intelligence and I used the first as an example."

I'm surprised they are surprised, they must live in an echo chamber: conservatives all over the net have been questioning her credentials. And the question is not her intellegence [we know she is] the question is whether she has the level of intelligence required to sit on SCOTUS.

224 posted on 10/08/2005 4:01:42 PM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: GarySpFc
She has exactly the same credentials as William Rhenquist had prior to his nomination.

And?? The issue is that George Bush promised a candidate in "the mold of Scalia and Thomas". He failed to deliver on that promise. If this was his first term and he did this he would be a one-termer just like and for pretty much the same reasons as George "Read My Lips" H.W. Bush.

225 posted on 10/08/2005 4:36:08 PM PDT by Spiff (Robert Bork on the Miers Nomination: "I think it's a disaster on every level.")
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To: dirtboy
Cripes, associates of the president have been named to SCOTUS numerous times.

So, which cronies were appointed after decades of hard work by conservative Republicans who finally were able to win control of the House, Senate, and White House? Which cronies were appointed after a president promised his base that he would appoint someone "in the mold of" two constitutional scholars of national stature? Which cronies were appointed to the court after decades of malfeasant and destructive decisions that were based on the whims of the liberal extremist judicial activists on the court?

226 posted on 10/08/2005 4:41:19 PM PDT by Spiff (Robert Bork on the Miers Nomination: "I think it's a disaster on every level.")
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To: XJarhead
Exactly. A person in her position would have been among the city's elite in the business community, and have the respect of the other 200+ ego-driven partners in her firm. She'd have to be a topnotch lawyer and administrator, used to takiing tough positions and holding to them. For anyone to equate her to an "office manager" is a joke.

Sounds like Coulter's comment on Maher's show that Miers is "a cleaning lady." Sorry Ann but that is not just unfunny but downright slanderous. When Ann or any critic has been the head honcho of a 200+ law firm and the head of a state bar of the third largest state and the chief attorney for a sitting president who was instrumental in vetting strong conservative justices etc. then we can talk.

Until the hearings I am not going to dismiss Ms. Miers - she deserves a chance to prove herself after all the bickering and rude putdown of her character. It is as simple as that

227 posted on 10/08/2005 4:52:36 PM PDT by torchthemummy ("Dems preach to their moonbat choir while the Pubbies sing to the audience. " - TTM)
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To: Fenris6
"I doubt she has the mental fortitude to defend conservatism from the libs on the bench. She'll be an O'Connor in 2 years."

I doubt YOU have the mental fortitude to make such a presumption of her abilities or how she will judge in two years.

My God people are just so comfortable in bypassing her past history of achievement and then denouncing her as some old lady cowering in the corner. It is almost the same attitude as on the left where the presumption is that african-americans are unable to achieve without affirmative action.

Please!

228 posted on 10/08/2005 5:11:08 PM PDT by torchthemummy ("Dems preach to their moonbat choir while the Pubbies sing to the audience. " - TTM)
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To: JCEccles
They offer no reassurance that there is anything other than a perfectly functional but utterly ordinary intellect at work here.

A perfectly functional but utterly ordinary intellect can be, in fact, a beautiful thing.

229 posted on 10/08/2005 5:14:41 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: All
Miers A British Partisan?

In a stunning discovery Thursday, Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers was found to have a critical role in the writing of “Blackstone’s Commentaries,” the legendary Bible of English common law, long regarded as the standard authority for lawyers. Her name arose as the result of an Oxford study which revealed her to be William Blackstone’s ghost-writer.

Reaction of Washington insiders was mixed. Evangelicals praised her intellectual. credentials, but a staffer for Sen. Patrick Leahy said the senator was concerned whether or not Ms. Miers could be impartial in suits affecting British interests, specifically, “any case involving the English language.”

Senator Charles Schumer stated, “So what if she was a crony of Blackstone. This still does not put her name up there with the best legal minds. After all, Blackstone was the authority on the COMMON law, not the elite law.”

Senator Edward Kennedy said he had never heard of Blackstone and that this new development would, at the very least, deepen the quagmire in Iraq.

230 posted on 10/08/2005 5:16:58 PM PDT by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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To: XJarhead
Exactly. A person in her position would have been among the city's elite in the business community, and have the respect of the other 200+ ego-driven partners in her firm

There are easily 15-20 attorneys in my mid-sized city who have accomplished as much if not more as an attorney or managing partner as Harriet Miers has. Why shouldn't one of them be nominated?

Considered in the best light, Miers is a sad, barely adequate choice. Compared to Luttig, McConnell, or Rogers-Brown, Miers is woefully inadquate. Her nomination is an embarrassment to the Bush Administration, which is why Harry Reid is so high on it.

231 posted on 10/08/2005 5:18:47 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Cicero
But I've yet to be convinced that she can stand up to the pressures on SCOTUS.

What pressures are those? she hears the case, has her peeps research the law, and then she comes to a defendable position. Repeat a few thousand times and that's a career on the USSC.

What pressure?

232 posted on 10/08/2005 5:20:50 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: HitmanNY

O, let us all now sing in praise of the beauty of mediocrity!


233 posted on 10/08/2005 5:21:23 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: JCEccles

And the young child was the only one who noted that the Emperor, in fact, had no clothes. :-)


234 posted on 10/08/2005 5:22:25 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: FreeReign

"The Constitution is a simple, straightforward document. You don't need years of training in constitutional law to get it right. You only (need) it to get it wrong. "

This is a good argument. The other aspect that seems to be missing in this debate is justices as political figures.....yeah, I know, it's almost heresy to speak of this, but lets face it - legal pedigree or no several justices have no business being on the court based on their stupidity alone.

Congress sets the number of justices on the the Supreme Court - FDR tried but failed to pack the court to get justices with politically convenient (socialist, pro New Deal) views...I wonder why he would do that? When you start to consider that the USSC should be considered as much a political institution (whether the justices admit it or not) as a constitutionally established judicial one, then this whole argument of level of qualification is moot.


Why don't we go back to the originalist view and set the court at 6 and just keep the best ones? (/rhetorical question)


235 posted on 10/08/2005 5:22:39 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: HitmanNY
A perfectly functional but utterly ordinary intellect can be, in fact, a beautiful thing.

You have a malignant brain tumor and your HMO must choose a surgeon to perform the surgery.

The HMO has two choices: one is a world renown neurosurgeon who has removed 150 of these tumors and is widely published for his state-art-the-art techniques and skills at saving patients' lives.

The other choice is a competent general surgeon assigned to small city hospital. She has never removed a brain tumor but assures the HMO that with a little bit of study and reading she is confident she can get the job done. The HMO chooses her and explains, "She may have an ordinary intellect and comoletely lack experience in operating on brain tumors, but she's a hard worker, knows what a scalpel is, and we like her a lot."

Do you feel good about the person who is about to crack your skull open?

236 posted on 10/08/2005 5:30:44 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: JCEccles

The problem with the example you give is that if we apply it to the situation here, you are suggesting that she have experience as a supreme court justice to qualify to become a supreme court justice.

It doesn't work that way.

To answer your question, though, I'd select the specialist.


237 posted on 10/08/2005 5:40:02 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: XeniaSt
You're right about the snob business,

but I am concerned about Souter-2....

238 posted on 10/08/2005 5:48:50 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: JCEccles
The lovably irascible Beldar, the Texas trial lawyer who is one of the two people on earth hotly defending the Miers nomination (the other being our buddy Hugh Hewitt), has posted a convenient link to articles written by Harriet Miers during one of her stints as a bar association honcho.

Aw for cripes sake. These idiots are just as bad as the MSM idiots. They talk only to themselves and arrive at the conclusion that they are indeed the best and the brightes and woe to anyone who disagrees with them. Podhoretz can make it three and kiss my ass.

239 posted on 10/08/2005 5:51:23 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: JCEccles
There are easily 15-20 attorneys in my mid-sized city who have accomplished as much if not more as an attorney or managing partner as Harriet Miers has. Why shouldn't one of them be nominated?

You nominate them. To whatever you please.

240 posted on 10/08/2005 5:53:54 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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