Posted on 10/07/2005 4:59:16 AM PDT by shuckmaster
How does one reinterpret my statement "Try following it" into your response of "I just told you what I believe and you say I don't."
What is your problem with following what is commonly called the Golden Rule?
I would hesitate to attack this. There's no evidence that the statement is really wrong. Furthermore, if he wasn't using the Bible to guide his life he might have settled upon an outdated copy of some state's motor vehicle code or even who-knows-what?
I don't attack it. I celebrate it. It's rare to see such honesty. Well worth preserving in The List-O-Links where others can see it.
Wouldn't have believed it if I wasn't there at the time.
The Golden Rule is no different from the Ten Commandments. They are all law and obeying the law does not get a person into heaven. Believing the Gospel gets people to heaven. You can do as much good as you want but unless it is done out of love for Christ it is not considered good in His eyes.
So that is why God kills all those innocent children?
Ah, when caught in the trap, start with insinuating the other guy is "odd man out" in the group (this board). Documented communist tactic used in the US.
Or the Sears Catalog....... oh, the horror, the horror!
Finding common ground?
Since you are so insightful let me know when God's trial begins.
Oh wise guru, who put you in touch with this thread? Did they think your wisdom was better than theirs? I really doubt that it is.
"I am not capable of believing without Him working faith in me. Rational? No. True? Yes."
Or maybe not, how do YOU know? Did the Holy Spirit tell you that slavery was OK and that anything a government enacts into law is OK? How does the Golden Rule mesh with your belief that slavery isn't a moral issue?
"That is the reason that people who think rationally usually reject God because the thought of a God who could accomplish so much is just not rational and therefore unbelievable."
So know you are saying that on rational grounds atheism makes a lot of sense, therefore, it is wrong! Embrace the Mystical! (I am not saying your above example is necessarily rational or logical, and you wouldn't know because you have already admitted you can't make rational decisions by yourself.)
"However, God does not make us robots and therefore we still have the ability to deny the validity of God and His Holy Word."
In other words, using your above logic, if a person uses his God given ability to reason, he will come to the conclusion that God doesn't exist. By doing so he will have sinned and be damned to Hell. The only way to Heaven is to forsake the gifts God gave you. Embrace the Stupidity!
You are really providing some hilarious posts for us; don't stop now!
First, and most important, I do not, ever, challenge a person's faith. So, when I ask the question in post 780:
"How does one reinterpret my statement "Try following it" into your response of "I just told you what I believe and you say I don't.""
....this was not a challenge to your faith but a question as to how a suggestion to try following the Golden Rule could possibly be interpreted as any kind of challenge.
I'm sorry that you seem not to be able to understand that.
Note again that no Creationist has come out opposing taxesareforever's statement that slavery is not wrong.
Now we have the following statement:
"That is the reason that people who think rationally usually reject God because the thought of a God who could accomplish so much is just not rational and therefore unbelievable."
paired with:
"The Golden Rule is no different from the Ten Commandments. They are all law and obeying the law does not get a person into heaven. Believing the Gospel gets people to heaven. You can do as much good as you want but unless it is done out of love for Christ it is not considered good in His eyes."
Thus a simple formula that explains the nature of these threads:
1. Believe that you love Christ.
2. Believe that loving Christ is all that will get you into heaven.(thus any behavior that shows you love Christ is ok.)
3. Believe that rational behavior is a indicator that the person doing it does not believe in God and therefor does not love Christ.
There goes science, because practiioners of science do not by definition believe in God and love Christ, and (inferential jump here) there also goes the need for honesty in debate with them because they are bad non Christ lovers.
Worse yet, rational behavior is, in and of itself, an indicator that the person doing it does not believe in God and is probably, therefor, a bad guy
That is your opinion because you have already disclaimed any and all opinions from those scientists who support the Institute for Creation Research.
Okay, I'll take this as a misinterpretation on my part. However, the phrase "Try following it" is all I can do. I am a sinner and no matter how hard I try I go against the Golden Rule every day. Matter of fact, everyone does since we are all sinners.
I don't consider rational thinking as a gift. It might be thought of as the Devil's play book.
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