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Miers' Religion Is Irrelevant (Rush: Get A Grip Folks, Personal Faith Means Squat In SCOTUS Alert)
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | 10/05/05 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 10/05/2005 7:50:11 PM PDT by goldstategop

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To: goldstategop
Article VI.

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The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.


21 posted on 10/05/2005 8:22:58 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: Huck
would tend greatly to prevent the appointment of unfit characters from State prejudice, from family connection, from personal attachment, or from a view to popularity

JFK must not have read that when he appointed his brother to be Attorney General.

22 posted on 10/05/2005 8:23:46 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58
JFK must not have read that when he appointed his brother to be Attorney General.

Neither did the Senate who approved him.

23 posted on 10/05/2005 8:26:36 PM PDT by Huck ("Sometimes you're better off not knowing how much you've been had." --Bob Dylan)
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To: Huck

Since you have never supported this President, why should I consider your concerns.


24 posted on 10/05/2005 8:29:11 PM PDT by OldFriend (One Man With Courage Makes a Majority ~ Andrew Jackson)
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To: Brilliant
I don't know how you can say she brings nothing when you don't know her. It's not important for you to know her. It's important for the President to know her since he's making the appointment.

Of course, if you don't trust him, then I can see why you'd not be satisfied with his appointment. At this point, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. It's really kind of pointless to do anything else since the only thing we can do is vent anyway.

This is exactly what the Miers nomination boils down to for those of us on the right. I am disheartened at the vicious attacks Freepers have thrown at each other because of this nomination. Debate and dissent is good, and may it never be stifled, but the vitriol has got to stop on both sides.

My position on Miers is currently "need more info." I was disappointed President Bush didn't select someone like Brown or Owens. From what I've read on Miers so far though, it seems she may turn out ok, and I definitely feel better about her.

I keep hearing the objection of "'May turn out ok' isn't good enough! Where's the paper trail?!" I understand because we have been burnt before, but how dependable is a paper trail, truly? O'Connor had a paper trail. Kennedy had a paper trail. Souter had a paper trail. What good did it do in the end?

A nominee can write the most sensible opinions around before getting to the SCOTUS, but does that guarantee anything? Sad to say, but even spelling out their thoughts in a Senate hearing has absolutely no bearing at all on what a person does once they're seated. The most anyone, other than the nominee himself, can do is infer how that person will rule.

I would've liked a paper trail. I would feel so much better about this nominee if there were one, but that's really all it can do. In the end, it all comes back to trusting the President we elected to do his best to fulfill his duty and nominate justices that will uphold the Constitution as the law of this land. I think he's done a good job of that up to this point.

Of course, you can always contact your senators and the President and voice your praise or concerns, as is your right as a constituent. There's no denying that the President has lost trust among some, but it doesn't change the fact that the President is the only person in the US with the power to nominate judges to SCOTUS. Do you trust the President on this or not? Your call.

25 posted on 10/05/2005 8:30:22 PM PDT by GunMage
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

I do feel SLIGHTLY better about her now than I did. We won't know really until she's been on the court a while.

Although this Oregon case might help us get to know Roberts, who (crossing my fingers) should turn out similar to Rhenquist more or less.


26 posted on 10/05/2005 8:31:48 PM PDT by RockinRight (Why are there so many RINOs?)
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To: OldFriend

I voted for this president. There is no more significant way than that to support him. But that doesn't mean I have to be a drooling zombie follower. He's far from ideal. He's a mediocrity, really. But he was the best choice. I'm looking out for what I think is important, not necessarily what GWB wants.The idea that he's looking out for us is laughable.


27 posted on 10/05/2005 8:31:51 PM PDT by Huck ("Sometimes you're better off not knowing how much you've been had." --Bob Dylan)
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To: advance_copy

I'm not worried about her abortion stance. I think she's pro-life.

I'm wondering how she'd rule on:

Property Rights
Second Amendment
"phantom" civil rights like sodomy and gay marriage


28 posted on 10/05/2005 8:33:44 PM PDT by RockinRight (Why are there so many RINOs?)
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To: Huck

Just what issue that might come before the Court is about to impact you personally?


29 posted on 10/05/2005 8:35:47 PM PDT by OldFriend (One Man With Courage Makes a Majority ~ Andrew Jackson)
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To: goldstategop

They know damn well she is pro-Life but the point is what are they going to do about it. How will they be able to attack Dear Aunt Harriet without looking like the biggest bullies on the block?

This funniest part is the attempt to convince us that she is something other than a Conservative by the Perpetually Pissed Off.


30 posted on 10/05/2005 8:36:34 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: RockinRight
I have read but do not have the source at the moment, that Meiers was against repealing the sodomy law in Texas.

She has also stated that the right to keep and bear arms is a precious right.

Don't know what she thinks of Kelo. Perhaps that question will be asked of her during the hearings.

31 posted on 10/05/2005 8:37:14 PM PDT by OldFriend (One Man With Courage Makes a Majority ~ Andrew Jackson)
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To: goldstategop

Wasn't John Kennedy supposed to be a tool of the Pope because he was Catholic?

I would expect that anyone qualified for the Supreme Court would be able to separate out their religious beliefs from their job as a Justice. Miers, or anyone for that matter, ought to be ruling based on the law, not based on their own personal beliefs.


32 posted on 10/05/2005 8:38:08 PM PDT by va4me ("Government isn't the solution to the problem, it is the problem" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: RockinRight

Miers wrote that she believes in the RTKBA (and she is a Texas Republican, after all). In answering a survey to a gay rights group, she said she supports the Texas anti-sodomy law, which also makes gay marriage a non-starter. I don't have anything on property rights, but I hope that comes up during the hearings. So far, so good though.


33 posted on 10/05/2005 8:39:34 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: goldstategop
They ought to be decided -- and Roe was one of them, ought to be decided -- in the legislatures of the states or at the Congress by the elected representatives of the people.

Bravo Rush!!!

34 posted on 10/05/2005 8:40:11 PM PDT by va4me ("Government isn't the solution to the problem, it is the problem" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: OldFriend
Just what issue that might come before the Court is about to impact you personally?

I'm an American. Every year cases go before the court that affect us all personally.

35 posted on 10/05/2005 8:41:26 PM PDT by Huck ("Sometimes you're better off not knowing how much you've been had." --Bob Dylan)
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To: Brilliant

“Do you believe today that the right to privacy does exist in the Constitution?” asked Senator Arlen Specter (R-Pa.), chair of the Judiciary Committee, during the Sept. 13 session.

“Senator, I do,” Roberts said. “The right to privacy is protected under the Constitution in various ways.”

In discussing his understanding of privacy rights, Roberts pointed to the Constitution’s First, Third and Fourth Amendments, which are part of the Bill of Rights. Among other things, they protect citizens against improper searches and seizures by the government, protect against restrictions of freedom of speech and assembly, and prohibit the establishment of an official state religion.

Roberts added that in the past 80 years, the Supreme Court has recognized the concept of “personal privacy,” as protected under the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. The high court used this concept of privacy as the basis for its 1972 decision in Roe vs. Wade that legalized abortion, as well as its Lawrence decision overturning sodomy laws, considered to be the court’s most sweeping ruling on gay rights.


36 posted on 10/05/2005 8:43:07 PM PDT by KDD (A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse.)
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To: Brilliant
It's not important for you to know her. It's important for the President to know her since he's making the appointment.

Wrong, it is important for all of us to know her, and then let our Senators know how we feel they should vote, either for or against.

The Constitution doesn't allow the President carte blanche to put whoever he wants on the Supreme Court, rather it requires the Senate to give "advice and consent". They aren't supposed to rubber stamp his, or anyone's, nominees. Rather they are supposed to act in the best interest of their constituents. Not in the best interest of the President or their party.

Again, it is important for all of us to contact our Senators and let them know how we feel.

37 posted on 10/05/2005 8:43:42 PM PDT by va4me ("Government isn't the solution to the problem, it is the problem" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: goldstategop
It is rather transparent and pathetic. The base is upset at the choice, so the White House responds by going, "No, it's okay, she's a Christian!" Like that makes it all better.

I guess that's enough for some people (like James Dobson), but personally I'm more interested in her views of constitutional law than the frequency of her church attendance.

Even if she [i]is[/i] a secret Clarence Thomas (which I doubt), I still can't get past the fact she's a White House crony. Bush appointed her out of either his personal loyalty to her, or her expected loyalty to him (the expectation that she will grant the executive branch more power whenever it desires it). Neither is appropriate for an appointment to the Supreme Court.

38 posted on 10/05/2005 8:44:18 PM PDT by Phocion ("Protection" really means exploiting the consumer. - Milton Friedman)
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To: goldstategop

Yes! Thanks to Rush for stating the obvious. Her faith neither qualifies nor disqualifies her. What's wrong with people?


39 posted on 10/05/2005 8:46:10 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past ("Let the wicked man forsake his way and the evil man his thoughts. Let him turn to the Lord" Is 55:7)
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To: edskid
John G. Roberts, Jr said the following during his confirmation hearings about his judicial philosophy... ** Damn Harriet Miers' oily hide for not revealing her philosophy as Roberts so bravely did! Oh, wait... confirmation hearings haven't started yet, so she couldn't have done so.

Frankly, you have no idea what you are talking about. I was responding to a statement that John Roberts did not let his judicial philosophy be known DURING THE HEARINGS.

40 posted on 10/05/2005 8:46:29 PM PDT by msnimje (Hurricane KATRINA - An Example of Nature's Enforcement of Eminent Domain)
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