A clampdown cometh

WND ^ | October 3, 2005 | Vox Day

[Mikey]

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependence; from dependency back again into bondage."

Fraser Tyler, English historian



"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachment of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpation's."

James Madison.



“Memory is the enemy of tyranny.”

Joe Sobran



"Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants, it is the creed of slaves."

William Pitt



"Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of the day, but a series of oppressions, begun at a distinguished period, unalterable through every change of ministers, too plainly prove a deliberate, systematical plan of reducing us to slavery."

Thomas Jefferson



"A national ID card -- complete with an encoded computer chip and biometric 'tags' such as fingerprints or retinal scans -- came one step closer to becoming a creepy reality ... when Reps. James P. Moran and Thomas M. Davis introduced legislation that would require their adoption by all 50 states and the District of Columbia. ... Their bill would give the federal government unprecedented access to information about our daily lives that ought to frighten any sensible person.

Every transaction we make, every trip we take, every time we produce a driver's license to conduct business would be noted and recorded in a government database. And with the national ID 'smart card' almost certainly being linked -- at first, or after Americans get used to the idea -- to our financial lives in every critical respect (checking accounts, credit cards, etc.) there won't be anything the government, its myriad agencies and even private-sector contractors, won't know about us except our never-voiced thoughts -- the last realm of privacy that may be left to Americans a decade from now. ... What Messrs. Moran and Davis have proposed is, in fact, 'a system that will erode individual freedom and increase governmental power without significantly improving safety,' as Chris Hoofnagle of the Electronic Privacy Information Center puts it. He and other civil libertarians ridicule the government's straw man -- that a national ID will prevent future terrorist attacks. They argue, convincingly, that well-funded criminals and would-be terrorists will always find a way to get around such a system. Only the average citizen would find himself under the ever-present watchful eye of government.

As with gun control, the national ID will result in diminished freedom and privacy for law-abiding citizens who pose no threat to honest government but are objects of these ever escalating, police-state tactics. The national ID card is a terrible idea, perhaps born of good intentions -- which should nonetheless be dropped before we get more than we bargained for."

--Washington Times



“Once created, federal programs are nearly impossible to eliminate.”
- Rep. Ron Paul, Texas Republican, “Texas Straight Talk,” 9/20/04



"[I]t is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

— Reichsmarschall Hermann Goering



“The nine most terrifying words in the English language are “I’m from the government and I’m here to help.”

Ronald Reagan

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People of the world, get ready for the;

NEW WORLD ORDER.

People of the world get ready to live under the boot and loving whip of the;

UNITED NATIONS

[SmartCitizen]

This is a timely article by Vox Day. To paraphrase another famous man: "Licentiousness destroys order, and when chaos ensues, the yearning for order will destroy freedom."

People will ALWAYS trade their freedom for security. One point Vox Day makes that Bush supporters refuse to acknowledge about the Patriot Act:

This is freedom-hating idiocy of the highest order. Even if the current president has the purest and most angelic of intentions, as well as Christ in his heart, such legislation is akin to placing the collective neck of the American public in the guillotine for the remainder of the Republic's doomed existence. For sooner or later, there will be other presidents who are not so virtuous. If the American people are so foolish as to grant the present administration its wish for this anti-constitutional abomination, they will richly deserve the servitude to which they will inevitably be reduced.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

...This is freedom-hating idiocy of the highest order...

Welcome to the Community.

Bush is doing his assigned job.

Next, Hillary has plans for you.

[Travis McGee]

I think we could see internal border controls in the aftermath of an outbreak of major terror attacks. The USA would be divided up into regions, and you would need to stop at checkpoints when traveling between regions. Other random checkpoints would be established on highways and so on. The sheeple will support these checkpoints in the name of security. Once established during an emergency, they will become a permanent part of our American landscape.

[B4Ranch]

"People will ALWAYS trade their freedom for security."

Let me rephrase your bullshit statement.

IGNORANT people will ALWAYS trade their freedom for security.

I am not amongst that group!

[A Texan]

...and so rights as a free people would end.

Actually I don't think the American people would tolerate such national checkpoints. Sadly, it would be the one time I would be supporting the ACLU.

[vrwc0915]

A few links

http://www.roadblock.org/whattodo.htm

http://www.papersplease.org/hiibel/index2.html

[SmartCitizen]

IGNORANT people will ALWAYS trade their freedom for security.

It was a general statement and was not meant to encompass EVERYONE. So don't take it personally. The sad fact is that most Americans are IGNORANT. Most could not tell you how many admendments are in the Bill of Rights, or even what the 1st Amendment says.

[Mikey]

Ask any truck driver about weigh stations and random DOT stops and harrasing checks. Yet the borders remain wide open.

I've heard so many people say some of the dumbest statements one can ever hear regarding safety and security verses liberty. Most of these people have actually said they'd gladly give up some of their liberties in order to have security. Damn.

[Sarajevo]

Actually I don't think the American people would tolerate such national checkpoints.

How easy would it be to transform Rick Perry's Trans Texas Corridor to such a use.........

[Mikey]

"Most could not tell you how many admendments are in the Bill of Rights, or even what the 1st Amendment says."

I've gone into hunt clubs and asked members to quote the 2nd Amendment verbatim and the explain what it truly means and most members can't do it. Its absolutely appalling.

[A Texan]

It would be very easy!!! The funny thing is that our vehicles are monitored in every major city in the United States and on most of the major in-town freeways as well.

[Mikey]

The newer cars with the GPS systems can be easily tracked and monitored. I've read in some magazines and saw a piece on TV about how the auto manufactures are going to help stop high speed chases by installing a chip in the auto's computer that would allow police to shut your car down.

[556x45]

That's b/c they're hunters and have swallowed the 'it's a privilege' hook line and sinker. They're too dull to understand that the 2nd has nothing to do with hunting. By and large hunters are no friend of the 2nd Amendment.

[Mugwump]

Folks, it bears repeating:

"They who would sacrifice essential liberty for personal security deserve neither liberty nor safety."

-- Benjamin Franklin

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

"I am not amongst that group!"

Doesn't matter. You will be out-voted and your freedom will be traded whether you like it or not. Listen to the Bushbots here on FR. Only too willing to give up your rights for the illusion of their safety. Only too willing to spend your money on their agendas.

I haven't given up all hope, yet. But I'm getting close.

[Travis McGee]

Great links!

[B4Ranch]

Glad to have you in the %5 who care about tomorrow.

[A Texan]

GM has chips in their vehicles that register speed and a few other things. It is kind of like the black box on airplanes and insurance companies are using these chips to pull data after an accident.

My understanding is that these chips have been standard on GM cars since the 2004 models.

[DumpsterDiver]

If the American people are so foolish as to grant the present administration its wish for this anti-constitutional abomination, they will richly deserve the servitude to which they will inevitably be reduced.

That reminds me of these quotes from H. L. Mencken.

Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under.

Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.