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Criticism & Self-Contradiction: Senator Obama & Daily Kos
Official Website of Senator Barack Obama ^ | September 30, 2005 | Senator Barack Obama

Posted on 10/02/2005 10:42:14 PM PDT by Miklos Szeles

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1 posted on 10/02/2005 10:42:14 PM PDT by Miklos Szeles
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To: Miklos Szeles

Interesting to see a Senator address the deranged kiddies at daily kos, a website famous for applauding the terrorist murder of American contractors in Iraq ("screw them!").

Daily KOS is not in the realm of rational discourse, nor feasible policy alternatives. It is the land of reflexive Bush-hate and blame-america-firstism.

Perhaps a Democrat senator addressing them is a sign of how very low the party has fallen.


2 posted on 10/02/2005 10:50:50 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Miklos Szeles

"(a lot of them work in corporations)"

"Them" is very telling, here. Obama clearly assumes that few -if any- in his audience work in the private sector.


3 posted on 10/02/2005 10:56:56 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: Miklos Szeles
I am suggesting that the tone we take matters, and that truth, as best we know it, be the hallmark of our response. -Senator Barack Obama

The truth would be a good start in the much-needed rehabilitation of this country's opposition party.

4 posted on 10/02/2005 11:06:18 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: Miklos Szeles
"...take-no-prisoners Republican party. They have beaten us twice by energizing their base with red meat rhetoric and single-minded devotion and discipline to their agenda.."

Oh Really! I want to see those guys.

5 posted on 10/02/2005 11:31:32 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: NutCrackerBoy
that truth, as best we know it,

Odd turn of a phrase, don't ya think?

6 posted on 10/02/2005 11:44:43 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem !)
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To: Miklos Szeles

If the rumor is true that Obama is being considered as a running mate for Hillary .. I predict it will destroy Obama.

Why ..?? Because it destroyed Lieberman. Joe may still be a senator, but he's not a leader in the senate and he's no longer considered presidential material. The reason is .. when Joe became "candidate-VP" - he had to accept all the garbage of the Gore campaign. Many of the ideas of the Gore campaign were complete oposites for Joe. Joe had to change his positions on social issues and it was a terrible mistake.

Obama will have to do the same for the Hillary campaign. He will be required to change his position on a lot of issues. When Obama loses (badly) to another repub - his career will be over and the golden boy will be out of the game.


7 posted on 10/02/2005 11:47:02 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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True, Joe Lieberman ran to the left in order to further the Gore/Lieberman ticket. Afterward, he's back to the old Joe. It didn't destroy him. He's waay too "conservative" and true to himself to win the Democratic primaries. Not only are Democratic primaries always fought on the left, but the center of gravity of that party is now painfully pegged to the left.

Barack Obama is, like Hillary, at heart a stone leftist, but far better than she at fogging up the place to appear moderate. Their ticket would wrap up the nomination quickly and then run hard right. They would both be spinning furiously. I don't think that represents any dramatic change from Obama's own political approach.

But it could tarnish him if Hillary is unmasked as a camouflaged liberal and they both end up looking ridiculous.

8 posted on 10/03/2005 12:08:42 AM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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"But it could tarnish him if Hillary is unmasked as a camouflaged liberal and they both end up looking ridiculous."

I'm surprised to hear that Obama is so hard left .. I guess he had succeeded in convincing me he was more moderate than left. Thanks for clarifying that, and I do agree with your assessment that if they try to run to the right they are going to look ridiculous.


9 posted on 10/03/2005 12:19:54 AM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: Justanobody
"that truth, as best we know it,"

Odd turn of a phrase, don't ya think?

Perfectly symptomatic of the Left's moral relativism.

10 posted on 10/03/2005 12:33:55 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: CyberAnt
I'm surprised to hear that Obama is so hard left .. I guess he had succeeded in convincing me he was more moderate than left.

I'm surprised to hear this - concerned, actually. I had thought Obama's moderate cloak was pretty transparent, but if he's start to fool even Freepers.....

11 posted on 10/03/2005 12:37:47 AM PDT by SpringheelJack
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To: Miklos Szeles

Obama is covering for the whackjobs at DK. Democrats are, by and large, anti-war, anti-capitalist, pro-infanticide, and pro-U.N. socialists.


12 posted on 10/03/2005 12:51:29 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Mount Athos
"I am suggesting that the tone we take matters, and that truth, as best we know it, be the hallmark of our response."

That about sums it all up. "Truth as we best know it". That sounds like an admission that truth to them is whatever they decide it is.

13 posted on 10/03/2005 1:01:17 AM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: Mount Athos
"Daily KOS is not in the realm of rational discourse, nor feasible policy alternatives. It is the land of reflexive Bush-hate and blame-america-firstism. "

So is the Democratic Party at large.

14 posted on 10/03/2005 1:03:30 AM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: Recovering_Democrat
"Obama is covering for the whackjobs at DK. Democrats are, by and large, anti-war, anti-capitalist, pro-infanticide, and pro-U.N. socialists."

As a wonderfully articulate caller named Eric, a black American, to Rush's show on Friday said, that is why they are so nasty: they are trying to justify immorality.

That just can't be done decently.

15 posted on 10/03/2005 1:07:53 AM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American

I have to admit, you do have a point.


16 posted on 10/03/2005 1:15:35 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Miklos Szeles

Well, Obama just lost my vote. He should have begged Zell Miller for advice. Demonization of my friends, colleagues, and family is a sure way to ensure that I work to keep you out of power.


17 posted on 10/03/2005 1:16:15 AM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Miklos Szeles

The country, finally knowing what we stand for

Your right about that Obama, we know that you stand beside the Devil..


18 posted on 10/03/2005 1:24:15 AM PDT by garylmoore (Homosexuality: Obviously unnatural, so obviously wrong.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Agree, they can try to mask it but bottom line is they are died in the wool socialists. Amen.
Also,
"The country, finally knowing what we stand for and seeing a sharp contrast, will rally to our side and thereby usher in a new progressive era." His case in point is that we do know what they stand for and thats why they get their A$$ kicked in every recent election. Amen.


19 posted on 10/03/2005 2:18:14 AM PDT by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: garylmoore
The country, finally knowing what we stand for

FINALLY? He presumes we don't know already what they "stand for".

20 posted on 10/03/2005 2:59:52 AM PDT by Carolinamom (Weeping may endure for a night, but joy cometh in the morning......Psalm 30:5)
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