Posted on 10/01/2005 7:43:47 AM PDT by Mount Athos
Iran is the biggest state sponsor of terrorist groups in the world, and will soon have nuclear weapons. What will civilization be like when Iran's proxy terrorists use these nukes one after another?
How does "mutually assured destruction" work against people who believe that dying while trying to mass murder as many innocents as possible is the surest way to heaven?
How does "mutually assured destruction" work against people who believe that dying while trying to mass murder as many innocents as possible is the surest way to heaven?
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It doesn't. You HAVE TO GET THEM before they get you. End of discussion....
== How does "mutually assured destruction" work against people who believe that dying while trying to mass murder as many innocents as possible is the surest way to heaven? ==
Don't make it "mutual".
How about "You blow up one US city, and we will destroy every one of your cities". Decimation!
Jihadist getting nuclear weapons and using them isn't anywhere near MAD. The 1st time they use 1 or more means the war on terror will come to a very abrupt end and they will be on the losing end.
The way it works is that we're going to blow up the countries that they live in if they do it. That gives those countries an incentive to stop them.
Of course, it doesn't appear to be working yet.
"The ultimate choice is the destruction of the US by operations of strategic symmetry through weapons of mass destruction, namely nuclear, chemical, or biological means, if the mujaheddin can achieve it with the help of those who possess them or through buying them."
Extermination seems to be the only viable approach.
Their leadership generally does not subscribe to that philosophy.
One thing I've also noticed is that Islamokazis generally go for an instantaneous and thus relatively painless death: bombs and the occasional plane crash.
Arab Muslims may not fear death, but they do try to avoid pain and humiliation. This may suggest an approach.
As far as Islamists getting nukes, Wretchard over at Belmont Club blob had a convincing argument about how the US response would have no choice in how to respond
The so-called strengths of Islamic terrorism: fanatical intent; lack of a centralized leadership; absence of a final authority and cellular structure guarantee uncontrollable escalation once the nuclear threshold is crossed. Therefore the 'rational' American response to the initiation of terrorist WMD attack would be all out retaliation from the outset.I would encourage people to look at the article. Essentially, once Islamists have WMD capability, and the ability to continue WMD attacks indefinitely, the US has two choices: surrender, or the complete and total extermination of Islam
You are right there are things they "value".
One thing I have noticed was that when all the shooting is about to start, the higher ups move their many wives and children to a location away from the battle, if they can afford to do so.
So, no matter how zombie-like these Islamofacists are they have some feeling for immediate family.
That's why complete annihilation maybe something they understand and want to avoid.
If the American people feel that the total extermination of Islam is too distasteful and option to even consider, then we will go the way of the Do Do bird.
A people must either do what is necessary to survive or they will not survive, nor do they deserve to survive.
I wish I could believe that. Frankly, the PC crowd has such a long track record of ignoring reality that its hard see them coming to their senses, even if the Jihadists used nukes on us. My money is that they would wring their hands over the destruction, BUT would keep right on jabbering about how racial profiling, military trials, and forced deportation is STILL the greater evil.
More likely, in such a scenario, the more sensible elements of society would have to declare marshal law and throw both the Jihadists and the Leftists into detention camps. When it comes down to raw survival, both groups are dangers to our society in their own way.
The true heads of Islamic terrorism are the wealthy individuals who comprise the Golden Cahin. They are the money men who finance it all. Eliminate the money men, and it all withers and blows away. The problem is that the money men include members of the Saudi royal family, as well as prominent members of the ruling class of other OPEC members. A midnight flight of B2 bombers lobbing JDAMs thru the bedroom windows of these money men, in Saudi, Oman, Kuwait, etc, would communicate that there would be no sanctuary for them
This attitude would change once two or more American cities are lost to nukes
Negotiation implies rationality. Islamo-fascists are totally insane and must be obliterated.
Fanciful concepts that apply to "civilized factions" have no relevance. Other notions like "strategic symmetry" that describe insane annhilation are useless.
Criminality on the scale of Islamo-terrorism deserves commensurate total and final elimination with not one iota of negotiation. The fact of this response can be the only deterrent if anything can be.
ADD: The "golden chain" is the key fact that drives this issue.
'If I can't have it, nobody can.'
Spoken like a true spoiled brat. This certainly proves that there is still a mind-set in this world shared by millions that has not risen even to the threshhold of conscious awareness, let alone, human.
Isn't it time to subdue the beast? Separate the wheat from the chaff? Take the loaded pistol from the monkey's hand?
I'm afraid the money men and leadership may be just as insane as the suicide bombers. I can't see any of these Jihad supporters coming to their senses. Seems to me they are all potential suicidal-homicidal maniacs. Maybe there are some rational people in power over there, but I haven't seen any evidence of such.
Seems likely the total destruction of Islam will be the end game.
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