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Grow Some Testables: Intelligent design ducks the rigors of science.
Slate.com ^ | Sept. 29, 2005 | William Saletan

Posted on 09/30/2005 9:17:50 PM PDT by indcons

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To: little jeremiah
the Vedas,
I as you, have read all the great books, albeit not recently.
Guess thats why I asked to on your absolutes list.

I .. a tiny bubble of laughter ...
that became the Sea of Joy

101 posted on 10/01/2005 7:58:14 PM PDT by RunningWolf (U.S. Army Veteran.....75-78)
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To: Ready2go

Retards-R-us-creationists placemarker.


102 posted on 10/01/2005 7:59:42 PM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: little jeremiah

Oh I need to ask you this little jeremiah...before I forget.

Can you wear a watch? I can't...they all stop.


103 posted on 10/01/2005 8:00:32 PM PDT by Ready2go (Isa 5:20 Destruction is certain for those who say that evil is good and good is evil;)
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To: Ready2go
Thank You Ready2go,

I do not really know what the Bible has to say about us and our new bodies.

Hebrews 13:14 For this world is not our home; we are looking forward to our city in heaven, which is yet to come.

Hope I see you there,

Wolf
104 posted on 10/01/2005 8:09:58 PM PDT by RunningWolf (U.S. Army Veteran.....75-78)
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To: balrog666
Pretty Kitty 'Spork' on your profile page, she looks happy.

Wolf
105 posted on 10/01/2005 8:15:59 PM PDT by RunningWolf (U.S. Army Veteran.....75-78)
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To: Ready2go

Very awesome quotes, Ready!

I don't wear watches because it bothers me to wear stuff on my wrists. I could tolerate a pocket watch but I don't have pockets very much either; often I cut them out and sew up the edges. I like things very, very simple.

I always have a lot of clocks around.


106 posted on 10/01/2005 8:25:11 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: RunningWolf

"For the soul there is never birth nor death. Nor, having once been, does he ever cease to be. He is unborn, ever-existing, undying and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." 2.20

"The soul can never be cut into pieces by any weapon, nor can he be burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind." 2.23

"This individual soul is unbreakable and insoluble, and can be neither burned nor dried. He is everlasting, all-pervading [meaning there are souls everywhere, not that one soul is everywhere], unchangeable, immovable, and eternally the same." 2.24

"He who dwells in the body is eternal and can never be slain. Therefore you need not grieve for any creature." 2.30

Timeless wisdom from the Vedas - which are in amazing agreement with the Bible.


107 posted on 10/01/2005 8:33:12 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: strategofr

The problem is that evolution is taught to kids in public schools as a kind of faith without teaching the flaws and questions about it. I remember being taught it in junior high school as though it was a fact and that created a doubt about God in my very impressionable mind.


108 posted on 10/01/2005 8:34:45 PM PDT by fabian
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To: fabian
The problem is that evolution is taught to kids in public schools as a kind of faith without teaching the flaws and questions about it.

What are some of the flaws and questions? Be specific.

I remember being taught it in junior high school as though it was a fact and that created a doubt about God in my very impressionable mind.

The theory of evolution -- like every other scientific theory -- makes no statements whatsoever about any deities at all. Any impressions you got regarding any gods as a result of hearing about the theory of evolution are indicative of an inaccurate presentation on your instructors' part or an incorrect interpretation on your part.
109 posted on 10/01/2005 8:38:11 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: little jeremiah
This come to my mind (and I think it applies to to this evo-cultism) but I cant find it anywhere.

Krishna 'Beware Arjuna, those that worship lessor gods go onto them'

I could explain my interpretation of this, but this is not the time, nor place too. I think you might understand it though.

Wolf
110 posted on 10/01/2005 8:45:12 PM PDT by RunningWolf (U.S. Army Veteran.....75-78)
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To: Dimensio
His statement stand on its own just fine.

There is no need to explain or justify anything to Dimensio the crown prince of the flying spaghetti monster cult of cosmo-evo.

Wolf
111 posted on 10/01/2005 8:50:11 PM PDT by RunningWolf (U.S. Army Veteran.....75-78)
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To: indcons

it always great to have large testables. oysters help...


112 posted on 10/01/2005 8:52:09 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: RunningWolf

Corresponds to having no other Gods as in the 10 commandments, or prohibitions against idol worship. People think of idols as statues, but it can mean any material object including false ideas, that one worships instead of the Supreme. The teachings of the Vedas and of the Bible are in essence the same, when deeply pondered and understood.


113 posted on 10/01/2005 8:54:00 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: chilepepper

LOL.......BTW, do oysters really work????


114 posted on 10/01/2005 8:54:19 PM PDT by indcons (How about rooting for our side for a change, you liberal morons?)
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To: little jeremiah
Exodus 20:3

You shall have no other Gods before Me

How I understand this, it is not necessarily an overt choice on makes.

My life is given to me by him.., a gift to do with as I choose. If I make my life about anything else than but him, then I have placed another god before him.
This could be evolution, science, money, power, adulation, sex, prestige, wine, hemp, aa, and on, and on, and on.

Does it bother me if a Christian tells me I am going to H***?.. H*** NO!, I already knew that, and that decision ultimately is not based on the words, the judgment of a peer, but he that is greater than all.

Although I speak these words, no one knows me as a Christian nor a creationist.

Wolf

115 posted on 10/01/2005 9:08:16 PM PDT by RunningWolf (U.S. Army Veteran.....75-78)
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To: RunningWolf

You're quiet welcome Wolf;

That's the problem Wolf...so many folks really don't know what the Bible has to say. So many have been turned off by church or suppose to be Christians, so they won't bother reading the Bible to see what it says for themselves.

Here's a little more about our bodies;

1 Cor 35 But someone may ask, “How will the dead be raised? What kind of bodies will they have?”

36 What a foolish question! When you put a seed into the ground, it doesn’t grow into a plant unless it dies first.

37 And what you put in the ground is not the plant that will grow, but only a dry little seed of wheat or whatever it is you are planting.

38 Then God gives it a new body—just the kind he wants it to have. A different kind of plant grows from each kind of seed.

39 And just as there are different kinds of seeds and plants, so also there are different kinds of flesh—whether of humans, animals, birds, or fish.

40 There are bodies in the heavens, and there are bodies on earth. The glory of the heavenly bodies is different from the beauty of the earthly bodies.

41 The sun has one kind of glory, while the moon and stars each have another kind. And even the stars differ from each other in their beauty and brightness.

42 It is the same way for the resurrection of the dead. Our earthly bodies, which die and decay, will be different when they are resurrected, for they will never die.

43 Our bodies now disappoint us, but when they are raised, they will be full of glory. They are weak now, but when they are raised, they will be full of power.

44 They are natural human bodies now, but when they are raised, they will be spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, so also there are spiritual bodies.

45 The Scriptures tell us, “The first man, Adam, became a living person.” But the last Adam—that is, Christ—is a life-giving Spirit.

46 What came first was the natural body, then the spiritual body comes later.

47 Adam, the first man, was made from the dust of the earth, while Christ, the second man, came from heaven.

48 Every human being has an earthly body just like Adam’s, but our heavenly bodies will be just like Christ’s.

49 Just as we are now like Adam, the man of the earth, so we will someday be like Christ, the man from heaven.

50 What I am saying, dear brothers and sisters, is that flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. These perishable bodies of ours are not able to live forever.

51 But let me tell you a wonderful secret God has revealed to us. Not all of us will die, but we will all be transformed.

52 It will happen in a moment, in the blinking of an eye, when the last trumpet is blown. For when the trumpet sounds, the Christians who have died will be raised with transformed bodies. And then we who are living will be transformed so that we will never die.

53 For our perishable earthly bodies must be transformed into heavenly bodies that will never die.

54 When this happens—when our perishable earthly bodies have been transformed into heavenly bodies that will never die—then at last the Scriptures will come true:
“Death is swallowed up in victory.
55 O death, where is your victory?
O death, where is your sting?”


116 posted on 10/01/2005 9:17:33 PM PDT by Ready2go (Isa 5:20 Destruction is certain for those who say that evil is good and good is evil;)
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To: RunningWolf

I agree 100%.


117 posted on 10/01/2005 10:01:42 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: Dimensio

The lack of credible transitional fossils of one life form to another is just one of so many questions and flaws. There should be a whole alot of such fossils if it were true. I think if you are to be really honest you need to acknowledge that evolution is not being taught honestly because that is not the agenda. It's being taught as though it were true rather than a theory is dishonest. Why can't ID or creationism be taught along side evolution both with all the flaws and questions and allow the students to decide? That certainly would not be Congress passing a law establishing a religion as the constitution forbids.


118 posted on 10/01/2005 10:34:01 PM PDT by fabian
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To: fabian

It won't happen (for now) because the true-believing evolution fundamentalists will not tolerate blasphemy. No questions allowed, no criticism tolerated, and any scientist, researcher or author who dares to have a question, doubt, or criticism is automatically rejected as an apostate wacko and discredited. Only devoted followers are accepted as worthy.

But the TOE is a dead corpse, just flapping, and that is why evo-fundies are so rabid.

Have a nice day!


119 posted on 10/01/2005 11:48:43 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: Ready2go

Thanks for all those verses. I've saved them to remember.


120 posted on 10/01/2005 11:51:39 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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