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CA: Prescription drug measures already facing off (Prop 78 and Prop 79)
Contra Costa Times ^ | Sep. 25, 2005 | David L. Beck

Posted on 09/30/2005 4:10:47 PM PDT by calcowgirl

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...with most of the money on the 78 side, where the campaign chest has already passed $70 million, compared to about $16 million for Prop. 79.

Lots and lots of money here.

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1 posted on 09/30/2005 4:10:48 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: NormsRevenge; SierraWasp; Carry_Okie; FairOpinion; Czar; CounterCounterCulture; ...
Can someone tell me why the Republican Party is actively promoting Prop 78?
It sounds like socialized medicine to me.

I just got a phone call:

“Hi, this is Republican Party Chair, Duf Sundheim.

“You will soon receive an important mailer that will allow you to apply to vote by mail in the upcoming special election. When you receive the mailer, take a moment to fill in the vote-by-mail application and return it right away.

“And please read the important insert about the prescription drug initiative that explains why Governor Schwarzenegger, and the Republican Party, support Proposition 78 and oppose Proposition 79.

“Paid for by the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America California Initiative Fund - Yes on Proposition 78 and No on Proposition 79, major funding provided by Johnson & Johnson, Merck & Co., Inc., Pfizer, Inc., GlaxoSmithKline, and other companies."


2 posted on 09/30/2005 4:16:16 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

More social programs...

http://www.calrxnow.org/yes_why.html

Why You Should Vote Yes on Prop 78

Proposition 78 offers Californians struggling with high prescription drug costs real help, right now. Prop. 78 is a proven program that can take effect immediately, and will deliver critically needed prescription drug discounts to millions of seniors and low income, uninsured Californians.

Known as Cal Rx, Proposition 78 offers Californians the best prescription drug discount program in the country. It is an improved version of a successful program already operating in Ohio that is delivering discounts averaging 31%, saving consumers $15.31 on every covered prescription. Every major prescription drug manufacturer participates in the Ohio program.

(snip)


3 posted on 09/30/2005 4:20:06 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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There's no free lunch !

How do Californians benefit from the passage of either ?

4 posted on 09/30/2005 4:21:19 PM PDT by TheOracleAtLilac
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Can someone tell me why the Republican Party is actively promoting Prop 78?

They assume that the voters will want one or the other to be approved, and Prop 78 is preferable to 79. I don't like either, and will vote against both.

5 posted on 09/30/2005 4:21:47 PM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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To: calcowgirl
Based on your analysis...why would anyone oppose 78 (or back 79) ?

(pardon my ignorance on the topic)

6 posted on 09/30/2005 4:24:55 PM PDT by TheOracleAtLilac
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Maybe the 79 supporters are correct that 78 is just a poison pill to make 79 go away. They just say it like it's a bad thing.


7 posted on 09/30/2005 4:25:00 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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Well, I think even we can agree on this pair of props, calcowgirl. Shocking. ;)

I'm joining McClintock in voting NO, NEIN, NON.

8 posted on 09/30/2005 4:26:32 PM PDT by newzjunkey (CA: Stop union theft for political agendas with YES on Prop 75!)
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To: calcowgirl

Have no idea. My club endorsed opposing 78.

Hopefully the voters will be confused enough and not vote for either 78 & 79.


9 posted on 09/30/2005 4:27:05 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: TheOracleAtLilac
There's no free lunch !

Sure there is. I've been buy a lot of free lunches for people for far too long.

10 posted on 09/30/2005 4:29:05 PM PDT by umgud (Comment removed by poster before moderator could get to it)
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To: Still Thinking

I would guess you're right. It seems strategic to support one which is slightly less vile than the other and hope both fail due to voter confusion. It's risky and has the potential to pass a bad proposition regardless.


11 posted on 09/30/2005 4:29:26 PM PDT by newzjunkey (CA: Stop union theft for political agendas with YES on Prop 75!)
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To: umgud
ever get a "thank you" for your generosity ?

..or a kiss

12 posted on 09/30/2005 4:33:33 PM PDT by TheOracleAtLilac
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Plus, according to the 79 folks, there is a self-destruct clause in 78 should the companies choose not to participate, which is exactly what they (the 79 guys) think will occur. Maybe they're right. If 78 draws enough support away from 79 that 79 fails to pass but 78 does, and then the companies decline to play along with 78, 78 vanishes without a trace after having served its purpose (torpedoing 79 in the polls).


13 posted on 09/30/2005 4:35:02 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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"Can someone tell me why the Republican Party is actively promoting Prop 78?"

Sure.

The GOP Big Tent RINOs, liberals and moderates have struck again. Duf Sundheim, along with the OC hatched New Majority, love these kinds of socialist programs. The bigger and more expensive they are, the more these fools push them.

14 posted on 09/30/2005 4:45:03 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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I'm joining McClintock in voting NO, NEIN, NON.

Definately.

15 posted on 09/30/2005 5:36:59 PM PDT by b9
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Cut to: Snarling bureaucrat stamping REJECT on prescription-size pieces of paper.

Reminds me of the Benny Hill show where he went into the socialized medicine office with a broken leg, and the nurse took his crutch and hit him over the head with it. When he hobbled into the office of a Doctor who was in private practice he was given Champagne and a beautiful blond to kiss away his hurts.

Wonder which disaster Californians will choose. It really doesn't matter, since the illegals have destroyed their state anyway. Let Dr La Raza step up and help you white citizens! (Into an early grave, that is.)

16 posted on 09/30/2005 5:59:29 PM PDT by swampfox98 (How American became a nation of traitors: Greed, corrupt politicians and religious leaders.)
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Pfooey.


17 posted on 09/30/2005 6:12:41 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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if both pass -- that is, get more than 50 percent "yes" votes -- the one with the most "yes" votes becomes law.

I plan to vote NO on both. But, since the unions are behind 79, it might get enough support. If seems like it will pass easily, I might consider voting for 78 if 78 is close in support and has a possibility of overtaking 79. Hopefully that won't happen.


From the Field Poll released just after Labor Day,

Poll completed last week finds both initiatives leading, albeit by different margins.

Proposition 78, the pharmaceutical industry-sponsored initiative, is favored by a 49% to 31% margin among voters most likely to vote in the special election.

Prop. 79, the initiative backed by consumer advocacy and labor groups, is also leading but by a somewhat narrower 42% to 34% margin.

However, only small proportions of voters can correctly identify either Prop. 78’s or Prop. 79’s main proponents and that once provided this information, results indicate that this could have a significant impact on voter preferences.

Since so many people don't trust the drug companies, maybe they should just say they support both 78 and 79.

18 posted on 09/30/2005 6:36:20 PM PDT by heleny (Yes on CA Propositions 73, 74, 75, 76)
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No on both.

I just got a taped call from Dufus Sundheim telling me that it was official Republican policy to vote for Prop 78. At the end of the tape, an announcer informed me that it was paid for by prescription drug companies.

The juxtaposition of those two messages created the appearance that the Republican Party is a wholly owned subsidiary of the pharmaceutical industry.

It was sickening, and very stupid.

19 posted on 09/30/2005 6:46:05 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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Can someone tell me why the Republican Party is actively promoting Prop 78? It sounds like socialized medicine to me.

And the answer is?

major funding provided

20 posted on 09/30/2005 7:27:32 PM PDT by FOG724 (It's ilk season!)
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