Mural at issue (School board members applaud burning a depiction of evolution: Dover trial day 5)

York Daily Record ^ | 9/30/05 | LAURI LEBO

[longshadow]

"On cross-examination, school board attorney Patrick Gillen set out to debunk the relevancy of the questions because they weren't asked at board functions and the board members were her friends."

I'm a little fuzzy on court procedure, but I thought if one side takes exception to the "relevance" of a line of questioning, they make an OBJECTION, and the judge rules for, or against the objection. Since when do lawyers challenged the relevance of the opposing side's questions with more questions DURING CROSS-X?

After the debacle the other day where they unsuccessfully objected to a witness reading the letter they personally wrote to the newspaper, because it was "hearsay," I'm beginning to wonder about the competence of the Dover School Board's legal counsel.

[microgood]

I see you really are going to argue it. lol Amazing mental gymnastics.

Why not? These crevo threads are so dysfunctional anyway.

Take for example the theory of gravity. Einstein's theory replaced Newton's theory. Why? Because gravity can be studied in real time and the answer to the question has a significant impact on humanity and future technology.

On the other hand, the theory of macroevolution cannot be studied in real time nor does it have any affect on humanity since it is all in the past and noone cares about it except a few university pinheads and some whacky school boards so why even waste the time trying to update such a theory? There is really no way of knowing whether we have a common ancestor with a chimp via random mutation and natural selection or some other process or whether it happened at all that way anyway.

So I guess the main reason macroevolutionary theory is still there (has not been replaced) is for the same reason noone challenges seat belt laws, it is a stupid law but noone is willing to cough up the bucks to take it to the Supreme Court or challenge it.

[PatrickHenry]

I'm a little fuzzy on court procedure, but I thought if one side takes exception to the "relevance" of a line of questioning, they make an OBJECTION, and the judge rules for, or against the objection. Since when do lawyers challenged the relevance of the opposing side's questions with more questions DURING CROSS-X?

I think you'd really need to be there to know what's going on. These press reports aren't entirely reliable. However, assuming it really happened as the story says, I could guess that he did object, originally, and it was overruled. Now he's still trying to show that his earlier objection was well-founded, in the hope that he could then argue to the judge -- who is the sole trier of facts -- that he should disregard the irrelevant testimony. But if that's what's going on, it seems like he's beating a dead horse. I can't tell; it's hard to know from these press accounts.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"So I guess the main reason macroevolutionary theory is still there (has not been replaced) is for the same reason noone challenges seat belt laws, it is a stupid law but noone is willing to cough up the bucks to take it to the Supreme Court or challenge it."

Yeah sure. Nobody is testing the ToE. Nobody has attacked it in 150 years. Riiiiiight. This gets funnier with each post.

[Thombo2]

"I think it's kind of ignorant."Well said.The artist deserves an appology.BTW,this type of behavior makes Christians look bad.The msm just loves stuff like this:(

[calljack]

Why cant we just say god made the big bang and leave it at that??

[WildHorseCrash]

Worse yet, we run the risk of all conservatives being lumped in with this thug.

You know what keeps me up at night? The thought that morons like this janitor and the ignoramuses that believe that Genesis is a history book have already come to define what "conservative" means -- ignorance, anti-science, anti-intellectuallism, and a medieval mindset of the kind that the Ayatollahs, Bin Ladens and Taliban of this world possess. If that be the case, they can keep the label, I want nothing to do with their kind.