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[Pennsylvania] Gov. Rendell backs evolution
York Daily Record [Penna] ^
| 30 September 2005
| NICOLE FREHSEE
Posted on 09/30/2005 7:45:00 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: tucker93
Nice babble. Please go on!
Why? It's clear that you have no interest whatsoever in facts or logic.
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posted on
09/30/2005 1:11:10 PM PDT
by
Dimensio
(http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
To: mlc9852
The name-calling reveals a lot about evolutionists. It always devolves into that, doesn't it? Maybe it only devolves into name calling with you?
I seem to remember you first saying something about me being "nasty". I don't think I was nasty. Perhaps you don't like the points I'm making and you find it impossible to counter them. But I don't think I was ever nasty until you accused me of being so.
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posted on
09/30/2005 1:13:19 PM PDT
by
narby
To: keithtoo
You use a
fraudulently doctored quote from
The Descent of Man to "prove" a point that you made about the title of a
different book and you want me to apologize for accusing you of being dishonest?
223
posted on
09/30/2005 1:14:23 PM PDT
by
Dimensio
(http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
To: mlc9852
That's what you sound like - a spoiled child who is mad cause he isn't getting his way. And you first called me "nasty".
No, I can't pursuade you of anything so I won't "get my way".
But it's you who are worse off for it.
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posted on
09/30/2005 1:15:42 PM PDT
by
narby
To: narby
Calling someone who disagrees with you "stupid" is what I would consider nasty. Why can't you just say you disagree? Because you are just a mean person. As I've said before, look on these threads and see who starts the name-calling. Not those defending ID. But I think atheists (not all but most) are just miserable people. And why shouldn't they be? They have no joy in life.
225
posted on
09/30/2005 1:17:10 PM PDT
by
mlc9852
To: mlc9852
Let students make up their own minds
Oh yes, let's let students make up their own minds about not only science, but maths, history, english, etc. This isn't politics. Students don't get to "choose" which theories they like. One is science and one is not. Students don't get to "choose" whether or not Pi is 3 or 3.14159, and whether or not gravity exists. Ok, maybe they "can" choose, but they'll fail the class and be completely out of touch with the real world.
Frankly, I find it very hypocritical that you are touting the "let them make up their own minds" mantra. You're not for open-minded discussion. Your mind is
completely closed to the evidence. I
asked you where the scientists were misinterpreting the evidence, and
you replied that the fact that they were interpreting it to mean evolution was enough for you. So, I wouldn't go around preaching open-mindedness, if I were you.
To: mlc9852
I read the Bell Curve and found it quite interesting. So it is OK for you to entertain the notion that races are different in intellect, but for someone to think so in 1859 makes them a racist?
If all the races were created by God, then why did it take 6000 years for any believer to notice that slavery is evil, and why, in the entire Bible, did not one prophet take a moment from his busy schedule to say so? Why did it take people like Darwin to notice that slavery is evil?
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posted on
09/30/2005 1:19:00 PM PDT
by
js1138
(Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
To: narby
Really evolution doesn't have any affect on me - I'm long out of school and I no longer have kids in public school. I just don't understand the harm in pointing out weaknesses in your precious theory. Of course I still have the right to an opinion whether you agree with it or not. We are all free to be wrong.
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posted on
09/30/2005 1:19:24 PM PDT
by
mlc9852
To: js1138
Who were the slaves in the Bible? Jews. And you make assumptions (not good for the scientific type you claim to be) that simply aren't true. I said I found the Bell Curve interesting. I didn't say why or what parts I found interesting. Take a step back and breathe deeply. The world won't come to an end because people disagree about science.
229
posted on
09/30/2005 1:21:49 PM PDT
by
mlc9852
To: mlc9852
Of course felines evovled into felines.Of course your theory is demonstrably false. How can I be so sure? Each generation, mitochondrial DNA develops random mutations, but it does so at a constant rate. We can compare individuals mtDNA and tell how many generations ago they shared a common ancestor. If what you are saying is correct, all cats should share a common ancestor within the last 6000 years.
They don't.
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posted on
09/30/2005 1:23:14 PM PDT
by
Alter Kaker
(Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
To: mlc9852
I didn't say why or what parts I found interesting. Which parts did you find interesting?
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posted on
09/30/2005 1:24:08 PM PDT
by
Alter Kaker
(Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
To: Alter Kaker
How can you prove the mitrocondral DNA develops mutations at a constant rate? Going back how far? What kind of mutations? Good or bad? Throwing in a couple of scientific terms doesn't make truth.
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posted on
09/30/2005 1:25:11 PM PDT
by
mlc9852
To: Alter Kaker
Why should I tell you? What difference does it make? Have you read the book?
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posted on
09/30/2005 1:25:48 PM PDT
by
mlc9852
To: mlc9852
I'm not talking about Jews as slaves. I'm talking about instruction given to slave owners and to slaves.
When a slave owner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies immediately, the owner shall be punished. But if the slave survives a day or two, there is no punishment; for the slave is the owner's property. (Exod. 21:20-21)Let all who are under the yoke of slavery regard their masters as worthy of all honor, so that the name of God and the teaching may not be blasphemed. Those who have believing masters must not be disrespectful to them on the ground that they are members of the church; rather they must serve them all the more, since those who benefit by their service are believers and beloved. Teach and urge these duties. Whoever teaches otherwise and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that is in accordance with godliness, is conceited, understanding nothing, and has a morbid craving for controversy and for disputes about words. From these come envy, dissension, slander, base suspicions, and wrangling among those who are depraved in mind and bereft of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain. (1Tim. 6:1-5)
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, in singleness of heart, as you obey Christ; not only while being watched, and in order to please them, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart. (Eph. 6:5-6)
Tell slaves to be submissive to their masters and to give satisfaction in every respect; they are not to talk back, not to pilfer, but to show complete and perfect fidelity, so that in everything they may be an ornament to the doctrine of God our Savior. (Titus 2:9-10)
Slaves, accept the authority of your masters with all deference, not only those who are kind and gentle but also those who are harsh. For it is a credit to you if, being aware of God, you endure pain while suffering unjustly. If you endure when you are beaten for doing wrong, what credit is that? But if you endure when you do right and suffer for it, you have God's approval. (1Pet. 2:18-29)
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posted on
09/30/2005 1:27:41 PM PDT
by
js1138
(Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
To: keithtoo
"The fact that Hitler was a follower of Hegel and Nietzsche is well documented. They were certainly Evolutionists."
No, they weren't. Nietzsche never liked evolution, Hegel was dead long before Darwin published.
"Sounds very Neitzsche-like and Hegelian.....and Darwinian"
That's because you don't know what you're talking about.
"Just FYI: He also said this; "I regard Christianity as the most fatal, seductive lie that has ever existed."
Which is why I didn't say he was a Christian Creationist, just a Creationist.
"What is ironic is how knee-jerk Liberals can spout out 'Nazi' at right wing Christians like myself when nothing could be further from the truth."
I never called you a Nazi. That's a Creationist tactic. I said that Hitler was Creationist, not an evolutionist like you falsely claimed.
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posted on
09/30/2005 1:28:54 PM PDT
by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
To: js1138
I'm impressed. You know your Bible. So you have no problem with these passages being true but you aren't buying Genesis? Is that correct?
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posted on
09/30/2005 1:29:20 PM PDT
by
mlc9852
To: mlc9852
I have a lot of problems with the supposed moral lessons of the Bible. Why you think it can be a substitute for thinking about what is right and wrong, I can't imagine.
237
posted on
09/30/2005 1:30:48 PM PDT
by
js1138
(Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
To: mlc9852
All creatures are related. They have the same creator which makes them related just as my children are related.
Since when does ID require that every species have the same designer? Why would that have to be the case?
To: Antonello
Be sure to bring a lunch. You may have to wait a while :)
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posted on
09/30/2005 1:31:55 PM PDT
by
keithtoo
(Howard Dean is a Rove plant, Rove is a NeoCon plant, NeoCons are Trilateralist plants....)
To: mlc9852
"Wow, I certainly got cheated in my education. I was never taught Hitler was a scientist! I demand my parents' tax money back."
You were cheated in your basic reading comprehension too, because I never said he was a scientist. Or do you just like lying about what other people said?
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posted on
09/30/2005 1:32:06 PM PDT
by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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