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Intelligent Design Advocates Fight Back
Associated Press ^
| September 29. 2005
| JOHN HANNA
Posted on 09/29/2005 6:22:55 PM PDT by wallcrawlr
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To: wallcrawlr
Wiesel is a Holocaust survivor and author of the important book Night about his experiences in the Holocaust. He is a Nobel Peace Prize laureate (1986).
To: wallcrawlr
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posted on
09/29/2005 7:38:17 PM PDT
by
WinOne4TheGipper
(Please don't feed the tagline.)
To: wallcrawlr
Sorry. Your profile states "Creationism is a cancer on conservatism".
I tend to equate creationism with ID because politically, they are the same entitiy, with the same fundamentalists backing the same horse. After youse guys explain ID/Creation to me, maybe you can tell me where religious fundamentalists promote harmony and civility in our world. We as humans are charged with uplifting the human condition, from generation to generation.
To: wallcrawlr
From the signed letter:
Logically derived from confirmable evidence, evolution is understood to be the result of an unguided, unplanned process of random variation and natural selection.
It seems that the line between methodological naturalism and philosophical naturalism has been breached.
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posted on
09/29/2005 7:40:35 PM PDT
by
Heartlander
(Please support colored rubber bracelets and magnetic car ribbons)
To: jwalsh07
LOL, you still think Lemon obtains. Yes, basically.
Neutrality is the new buzzword Professor.
Alas, it does not appear the School Board was neutral. They on numerous occasions made clear their goal was positively to introduce religion into the classroom. The recent Ten Commandments cases make it clear that the objective of the government action is paramount in deciding whether the actions are constitutionally permissible. This is why the ACLU made such an issue of the discussion of religion in the school board meetings, and why the Thomas More lawyers have been trying (unsuccessfully) to keep that evidence out.
To: WinOne4TheGipper
"NO. WC seems to be quoting the posts of others. I believe he runs the Revelation 4:11/ ID poing list, which I don't join because I generally try to stay as far away from crevo threads as possible.:)"You know what? I don't know who is what and what side is down, so I'm just going to sit on the sideline and learn a little bit. I'm serious. Sometimes you need a scorecard just to get through an evening at FR. God, I hope I haven't embarassed myself again because I do this every once in a while here at FR.
To: Zuben Elgenubi
I see. I guess it may not be entirely clear. Those are quotes made by others that I was simply trying to make people aware of.
Like minded people (as me) who dont appreciate the hostile comments and accusations made by some towards creation and intelligent design advocates on Fr.
I'd prefer to debate/discuss with people as if I'm sitting around a campfire rather than yelling across the aisle. I can appreciate humor and sarcasm but I dont appreciate mocking, namecalling and rude hostility.
Thats whats different in my new Freeper world of crevo discussion.
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posted on
09/29/2005 7:45:01 PM PDT
by
wallcrawlr
(http://www.bionicear.com)
To: whershey
One reason to be grateful for a generation of scientists from China, given they are loathe to grant "authority" to a western white man (Darwin).
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posted on
09/29/2005 7:48:11 PM PDT
by
ROTB
To: navysealdad; Zuben Elgenubi
Elie Wiesel is dead. Simon Wiesenthal died a few days ago - perhaps you're thinking of him?
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posted on
09/29/2005 7:49:07 PM PDT
by
general_re
("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
To: Zuben Elgenubi
They found tv and laptops on Mars?
Are you being evasive? You are aware NASA put a television camera and a computer on Mars, yes? And there is about 0% probability an alien intelligence discovering the rover on Mars today would find with it the evidence of human life. As such, if you substitue "alien intelligence" with "someone" and presuppose Mars instead of Earth, your statement "There would be a 100% probablility that that certain "someone" would find evidence of human life along with the tv or laptop." is fallible. Now do you see?
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posted on
09/29/2005 7:50:12 PM PDT
by
so_real
("The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
To: Zuben Elgenubi
Sometimes this quote from Homer Simpson is how I feel too:
Uh huh. Uh huh. Okay. Um, can you repeat the part of the stuff where you said all about the ... things?
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posted on
09/29/2005 7:50:30 PM PDT
by
wallcrawlr
(http://www.bionicear.com)
To: Clintonfatigued
Well, the life-sustaining ecosystem of the earth, even the simplest plants, are far more intricate and complex than even the most advanced computers. So ruling out intelligent design just doesn't make any sense. It goes waaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy beyond that. Even the simplest form of life is not just extremely complex. It is UNIMAGINEABLY complex. That is a simple fact.
If it were NOT a fact, then someone would have IMAGINED how do do it, and would have CREATED some synthetic life. All the combined intellect of humanity through out history has utterly failed to CREATE synthetic life. Yet a lot of them seem to think it just happened accidentally. That takes faith.
To: wallcrawlr
Well, while you're sitting around the campfire, here's some equipment to help you sort your way through and get s'more:
I'm jumping this thread, FReepers. Adios.
To: so_real
To: Zuben Elgenubi
LOL. Sometimes even I have to sit back and ask myself "What the heck was I thinking?" after a post.
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posted on
09/29/2005 7:55:29 PM PDT
by
WinOne4TheGipper
(Please don't feed the tagline.)
To: Zuben Elgenubi
After youse guys explain ID/Creation to me, maybe you can tell me where religious fundamentalists promote harmony and civility in our world. We as humans are charged with uplifting the human condition, from generation to generation. Really? "charged" by whom/what? The god of natural selection?
To: wallcrawlr
I've already stated I'm out of bounds and confused on this thread and you;re suggesting Homer Simpson to me???.
Last time I post to you, you stupid sh*t.
To: GSHastings
To: Zuben Elgenubi
Not trying to 'get' you, FRiend. It's just hard to know sometimes whether you're being mis-understood, having your intelligence questioned, or just plain missing out on the joke :-)
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posted on
09/29/2005 8:01:34 PM PDT
by
so_real
("The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
To: general_re
Everyone seems to be trying to weasel out of their mistaken identities.
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posted on
09/29/2005 8:04:11 PM PDT
by
Doctor Stochastic
(Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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