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Mitt Romney's Evangelical Problem
Washington Monthly ^ | September 2005 | Amy Sullivan

Posted on 09/29/2005 10:45:04 AM PDT by txzman

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To: bahblahbah
Romney is a Mormon from Massachusetts.

He is from Massachusetts, the Mormon part doesn't matter. LOL

21 posted on 09/29/2005 11:12:33 AM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: shanscom

Romney should be ruled out. Not because of his religion but because, like Gore, he won't be able to carry his home state.

In the last two Presidential Elections, Massachusetts led the nation in voting for the Liberal candidate.

I would love to see Bush/Coleman, or Allen/Coleman.


22 posted on 09/29/2005 11:12:38 AM PDT by proudpapa (of three.)
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To: marron

I, too, would want to know is position on policies and history on those issues. While religious tolerance is an ideal, it isn't always perfectly appliable.

What if he were a poligamist? scientologist? raelian?
What does his religion say about political issues and does he apply those views?

If he is an ardent follower and his religion dictated that, say, communism must prevail. I wouldn't vote for him.

If his religion said communism should prevail and he did not work toward that, then I also would not vote for him. For what other issues can we count on him to pursue if not his own faith? Some Democrats are wll known for this sort of thing. Kerry, etc.


23 posted on 09/29/2005 11:12:56 AM PDT by rebootd
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To: Pondman88
The case against--He is a Mormon. Freepers don't like him.

Those two statements amount to the same thing. His faith is only a liability in the opinion of those on FR who declare that it is.

24 posted on 09/29/2005 11:14:14 AM PDT by TChris ("The central issue is America's credibility and will to prevail" - Goh Chok Tong)
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To: Pondman88
The case against--He is a Mormon. Freepers don't like him.

Do you really think the reason freepers don't like him is that he is a Mormon?

25 posted on 09/29/2005 11:14:34 AM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: txzman

"Or, to put it in evangelical terms, it might be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for Mitt Romney to win the Republican nomination."

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I recall reading somewhere in the distant past that the Hebrew words for "camel" and "rope" are the same without the vowel sounds, and that this metaphor has long since been mistranslated and that mistaken translation, as bizarre as it sounds, has stuck!


26 posted on 09/29/2005 11:14:34 AM PDT by Ozone34
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To: txzman
This is actually not a new article, and I blogged on it at the start of the month.

Dan

27 posted on 09/29/2005 11:16:52 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: txzman
Although I am LDS, I probably would not vote for Romney in the primaries if someone more conservative were running against him.

That said, I have another take on this article. The author is trying to make the point that conservative Christians are religious bigots, who would disdain a candidate who agrees with them on political issues but who belongs to the wrong church. It is a hit piece on Christians.

28 posted on 09/29/2005 11:17:41 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: pepperhead

Mitt is originally from Michigan.

I'm not sure why freepers don't like Mitt, I think he is a very strong candidate who would certainly be able to go toe to toe with Hillary in the Northeast and the Midwest, while also attracting the South. But hey, I'm no Karl Rove.


29 posted on 09/29/2005 11:19:21 AM PDT by Pondman88
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To: Logophile

yeah, I thought the article made a couple slams on the Christian Right.


30 posted on 09/29/2005 11:20:14 AM PDT by rebootd
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To: txzman
Good Article. Romney is a Non-Starter, in my view as a Christian. The only thing my friends would tell his supporters is 'go away'.

So, if it were Mitt Romney running against Hillary Clinton, which way would you and your friends vote?

31 posted on 09/29/2005 11:23:07 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: txzman

Excerpted from National Review---

"Gov. Romney suggested that in the ongoing war, we ought to be investigating mosques that preach Islamic militancy and the young men who come to this country from rogue precincts of the Islamic world."


32 posted on 09/29/2005 11:23:13 AM PDT by Pondman88
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To: Pondman88
Mitt is originally from Michigan.

But he is elected official from Massachusetts.

33 posted on 09/29/2005 11:23:58 AM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Pondman88
He brings the Northeast and Rust Belt into the fold.

The pro-life, pro-marriage, pro-gun Rust Belt will flee from a social liberal like Mitt. His views are toxic.

The case against--He is a Mormon.

Give it up, Pondscum88. Mormonism is a red herring. He's an empty suit flip-flopper who tries to talk brave.

You said it yourself, Mitt Romney supported gay civil unions before he opposed them. He's a non-starter.

34 posted on 09/29/2005 11:24:09 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I believe abortion should be safe and legal in this country" -- Mitt Romney)
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To: WellThoughtOut; txzman

There are a lot of Christians who were inspired to vote for Carter when he ran, so impressed were they with his outspoken "born again" Christianity. He was a deacon and a Sunday School teacher, and for a politician to be that open with his religious faith at the time was a novelty.

We've had many years since then to regret his presidency. He was not the worst president ever, but his was certainly a disappointing one, and his behavior in recent years has been obnoxious to the point of bizarre.

Reagan, on the other hand, who seldom if ever graced the inside of a church, is widely considered one of our best presidents, and we have come to see him as a very committed Christian, if not a committed church-goer.

So I think you and I are in agreement, whatever a man's stated religious convictions, I still want to know what his political philosophy is, I want to know how rooted he is in basic morality, and I want to know if he has the courage to carry out his policies under intense fire.


35 posted on 09/29/2005 11:27:43 AM PDT by marron
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To: JohnnyZ

http://www.issues2000.org/states/MA_Gun_Control.htm

This doesn't help him either.


36 posted on 09/29/2005 11:29:48 AM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: txzman

In my view, this is largely much ado about nothing. Mormons get elected to office where there are very few Mormons. The list is quite long. Romney will be well positioned if Giuliani and McCain don't run, or flame out, as the centrist candidate, and he is far more articulate than Allen or Brownbach etc. I should add that non evangelicals might be more comfortable with a business like Mormon who does not talk religion that an evangelical who does.


37 posted on 09/29/2005 11:35:49 AM PDT by Torie
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To: txzman
I voted for W because of his stand on the issues, not because he is a Christian.

I will do the same every time I cast a vote.

Being a Christian is NOT a qualification, merely an enhancement.

38 posted on 09/29/2005 11:36:10 AM PDT by mombonn (¡Viva Bush/Cheney!)
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To: JohnnyZ

ha--we'll see. In 08 when Mitt imposes evil Mormonism as the national religion, takes all our guns, and mandates Johnny has two Mommies as required reading!!!


39 posted on 09/29/2005 11:36:18 AM PDT by Pondman88
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat
He is not the first LDS to run for President. Joseph Smith was the first. That was one of the big reasons he was murdered.

Source, please? (I won't be holding my breath.)

40 posted on 09/29/2005 11:36:23 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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