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Judge Orders Release of Abu Ghraib Photos (Happy Leftists Just can't get enough of the stuff BARF!)
Yahooooo via AP ^ | 9/29/05

Posted on 09/29/2005 10:01:02 AM PDT by areafiftyone

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To: lugsoul

In time of war you don't provide propaganda material to the enemy, period. Especially when there is NOT any useful public purpose to releasing such material. In WWII, should Tokyo Rose and Lord Hee-Haw have been invited to publish and broadcast every form of propaganda they wanted to, and provided with material by us, enabled by US media??? No way, Jose....


41 posted on 09/29/2005 10:38:01 AM PDT by Enchante (Would you trust YOUR life to Mayor Nagin or Governor Blankhead?)
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To: areafiftyone

I thought they were already released. What. . .they want the chance to show them again, over and over and over and. . .


42 posted on 09/29/2005 10:38:11 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: lugsoul

If these acts were truly being covered up, your question might make sense.

This is nothing but a propaganda move made by domestic enemies of our country and our military.

And, in times of war, many things the military does wrong are classified. That is so our enemies can not use that info as a weapon against us.

This is not domestic politics- this is life and death for our servicemen.


43 posted on 09/29/2005 10:39:09 AM PDT by A.Hun ("I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do" Heinlein)
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To: SueRae

Perhaps someone will stop for a moment, and think, and realize that any 'blood' from this is more appropriately on the hands of those who are depicted in the photographs.


44 posted on 09/29/2005 10:39:13 AM PDT by lugsoul (Sleeper troll since 1999.)
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To: mewzilla
He may have a point, but does he have a legal leg to stand on?

The government failed to meet its burden of proof (that the pictures contained information that would compromise national security).

45 posted on 09/29/2005 10:40:42 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: A.Hun

So, just so I understand your response - if there existed documented proof that our armed forces were raping babies and then beheading them, that information should be kept from US citizens on the grounds that its release would endanger our armed forces. Do I have that right?


46 posted on 09/29/2005 10:42:00 AM PDT by lugsoul (Sleeper troll since 1999.)
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To: lugsoul

Give it a rest..

Who would you rather as your prison guard..a US soldier at Abu Graib or one of Zaqawi's nice young men? I thought so.


47 posted on 09/29/2005 10:42:30 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: Enchante

So, just so I understand your response - if there existed documented proof that our armed forces were raping babies and then beheading them, that information should be kept from US citizens on the grounds that its release would endanger our armed forces. Do I have that right?


48 posted on 09/29/2005 10:43:01 AM PDT by lugsoul (Sleeper troll since 1999.)
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To: Enchante
In time of war you don't provide propaganda material to the enemy, period.

It's a bit late to tell the perps not to commit the abuses.

49 posted on 09/29/2005 10:43:35 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: lugsoul

That is not how it is being represented, and you know it. This has been laid at the feet of the DOD and our President by the media and foreign enemies.

Releasing more photos is a despicable act with only one intention.....more fuel for Muslim fanatics to use in their recruiting drives and to justify barbarous acts against our soldiers.


50 posted on 09/29/2005 10:44:11 AM PDT by A.Hun ("I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do" Heinlein)
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To: SueRae
Give it a rest? Oh, please forgive me for upsetting your little apple cart by stating an opinion with which you disagree.

As far as the remainder of your comment, I don't happen to believe that our actions are measured by comparison to the murderous thugs of Al Qaeda. IMO, our standards are a bit higher than that. Sorry you feel that our actions are justified just because there is somebody worse in the world.

51 posted on 09/29/2005 10:45:30 AM PDT by lugsoul (Sleeper troll since 1999.)
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To: steve-b

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner.


52 posted on 09/29/2005 10:46:26 AM PDT by lugsoul (Sleeper troll since 1999.)
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To: lugsoul

Information that it happened, no. Pictures of dead, raped babies...HELL yes!


53 posted on 09/29/2005 10:47:13 AM PDT by A.Hun ("I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do" Heinlein)
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To: lugsoul
Yes, we should use the full power of government to hide the truth if it might make us look bad in the eyes of our enemies. In fact, the embarrasing nature of information is full justification for its burial by the government. I know that sounds ridiculous, but it seems to be the consensus opinion here.

In a 1998 poll, five out of five Administration officials agreed with this statement.

54 posted on 09/29/2005 10:47:16 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: A.Hun
Okay. Taking your distinction, let me ask you this - how much of what you know about what happened at AG do you think you would know if it weren't depicted in pictures?

How much do you think happened there that you don't know about because you haven't seen the graphic evidence of it?

Your distinction could potentially have some merit if there was a snowball's chance in hell that the gov't would tell us anything they weren't forced to tell us.

55 posted on 09/29/2005 10:50:46 AM PDT by lugsoul (Sleeper troll since 1999.)
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To: A.Hun
Information that it happened, no. Pictures of dead, raped babies...HELL yes!

So, your position is that in 1998 the press should have been permitted to issue a general statement that the President had been accused of sexual misconduct, but the Starr Report should have been suppressed. Gotcha.

56 posted on 09/29/2005 10:51:44 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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Been lurking on the Dark side and they are sooo gleeful. They can't wait to post them all over the internet!


58 posted on 09/29/2005 10:53:54 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: steve-b

A little to smarmy for me. You honestly believe that a governmment at war has to lay bare its soul and release graphic details of every mistake made during a campaign?

Regardless of the consequences? Regardless of how many people die as a result?


59 posted on 09/29/2005 10:53:56 AM PDT by A.Hun ("I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do" Heinlein)
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To: steve-b

What a crock. I don't believe the revelation of Bill Clinton's sexual missteps endangered any of our servicemen's lives.


60 posted on 09/29/2005 10:56:41 AM PDT by A.Hun ("I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do" Heinlein)
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