Atta known to Pentagon before 9/11

Chicago Tribune on Yahoo ^ | 9/28/05 | John Crewdson and Andrew Zajac

[CyberAnt]

Well .. you're contradicting yourself when you say this:

"If Bush wants the truth to come out, he can make it happen easily enough. It seems clear to me that he does not."

If Bush does NOT want the truth to come out .. then why did Rumsfeld say that the military witnesses could testify ..??

[nopardons]

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[nopardons]

BRAVO!

[Lancey Howard]

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[strategofr]

"If Bush does NOT want the truth to come out .. then why did Rumsfeld say that the military witnesses could testify ..??"

It appears that there are two different forces at work, and we can't really see what is going on. The latest reports that I read on one of these threads indicated that Specter's people are currently in negotiations with the Defense Department as to exactly what will happen (including whether or not the hearings will be open). While some reports indicated that the hearings have been delayed due to the Jewish New Year, Schaefer's lawyer has indicated that the hearings have been delayed by the Defense Department.

The important thing is, that hopefully the hearings will take place. I'm still worried that they may not.

[rodguy911]

Wow, is that the best the trib can do in summarizing ATTA/Able Danger? Very poor stuff there.

[rodguy911]

It's never been mentioned in anything that I have read who instructed Gorelick to install the wall of lawyers.preventing vital info to intelligence agencies. I actually asked Shaffer on C-Span that question. I asked him if Hillary might have instructed Gorelick to do it and it took him 5 minutes to basically tell me he probably can't say. But i thing he knows.

[rodguy911]

When they(dod) originally agreed to allow 5 witnesses to testify maybe they figured that would take all the heat off them. They probably figured the news cycle will ignore what they are doing now which it will,in the msm, but not in the new media. We will hold their feet to the fire as long as it takes.

[ErnBatavia]

The Gorelick Wall

Soon to be the Gorelick Levy, since she'll undoubtedly chair some Katrina commission...

[strategofr]

"When they(dod) originally agreed to allow 5 witnesses to testify maybe they figured that would take all the heat off them. They probably figured the news cycle will ignore what they are doing now which it will,in the msm, but not in the new media. We will hold their feet to the fire as long as it takes."

I hope we can pull it off. I was very heartened to see the Chicago Tribune article. I went to Drudge, and was disappointed to see they that the only article returned when I entered, "Able Danger" into the search was published in August of this year. I suggested that they publish another article in the "News Tip Box."

It would be nice if somebody would do a demonstration in Washington, DC. However, I suppose that would not be covered by the media.

[rodguy911]

Drudge has dropped the ball numerous times on various topics that he should have been all over. I don't know what is with him.
I do know however if we keep the heat on "here" it will filter out to the rest of the "New Media" and and will not go away.
We have to impress upon the powers that be that we know the knowledge of 911 and Atta's plans were discovered long before 911 and was prevented from being told to the proper agencies/sources. This is a true outrage and heads must roll.
How can any govt. agency ignore the deaths of some 3,000 Americans?
One thing that will help us is if the friends and relatives of 911 victims show continued interest like they did by attending the last hearings. This can make a huge difference. No one, govt or media has the guts to ignore or mess with them. They can be the ultimo weapon of truth.

[airborne]

Here's something else that needs to be highlighted.

But an attorney for a military intelligence officer who was expected to appear said the Defense Department's refusal to allow such testimony _ not the Jewish holiday _ was the real reason for the delay.

[strategofr]

"Soon to be the Gorelick Levy, since she'll undoubtedly chair some Katrina commission..."

extended LOL! Thanks, I needed that.

[oceanview]

fair enough. I can't see Rumsfeld being part of the chain of authority that made this decision, but let's see what happens.

[RatsDawg]

Weldon is going to be on Savage again....like in a few mins.

someone should start a live thread

[strategofr]

"I actually asked Shaffer on C-Span that question."

Unbelievably cool that you spoke to him.

"I asked him if Hillary might have instructed Gorelick."

The bad thing from our point of view is that this was probably not Hillary's job. It was more likely Bill.

[gathersnomoss]

I heard all about it on ABC.....NOT!

BTW, it's Bush's fault.

[jgorris]

"It could be a problem."

Could be an understatement.

[meema]

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