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1 posted on 09/28/2005 9:02:45 AM PDT by anymouse
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I guess the shuttle is a mistake because people were killed. If Apollo had continued, people would have died probably during a moon mission (one reason given for eliminating the later flights). I guess Apollo were mistakes too.

Just saying a program was a mistake because it was aggressive and barely achievable is a rather poor choice of words. That says don't try anything risky. With that attitude, we'll never do or go anywhere.
48 posted on 09/28/2005 9:46:13 AM PDT by Oh Brother
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The space station was always a "make work" project of the USA to the russians so their rocket scientits would not go and work for other countries. (yea right)

It was a clinton plan.


56 posted on 09/28/2005 10:07:39 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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15 billion a year for NASA is mauch less than we spend on spy satelites, et al (NRL, DOD,etc budget for space projects)

It just so happens NASA gets the magnifying glass and DOD doesent. How many billion in defense spending is "stupid"!!? It would boggle your mind, if you let it.

59 posted on 09/28/2005 10:10:19 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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Interesting analysis. The Space Shuttle was the end result of a desire to make a space vehicle "reusable" to ostensibly save money -- I think Griffin is right that it was a bit too cutting-edge for the existing technology at the time, resulting in its inherent vulnerabilities now. The problem is that the stresses on the spacecraft require advanced engineering solutions. The Space Shuttle was a great leap forward, rather than an incrementally improved design. It should be noted that it has allowed some great science missions (UARS, Hubble, Compton Gamma-Ray Observatory, SRTM off the top of my head).

While there may be some small amount of science derived from the Space Station, the cost of maintaining a human presence in Earth orbit is so high (due to high launch and payload costs) that it doesn't seem worth the substantial effort to do it unless there is a more substantial science and technology benefit.

64 posted on 09/28/2005 10:15:52 AM PDT by cogitator
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Screw going to the moon. I want to go to Mars.


73 posted on 09/28/2005 10:39:26 AM PDT by PeterFinn (The Holocaust was perfectly legal.)
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I've said this since the early 1980s at the tender age of 14!

We SHOULD have built a space station as a launchpad for deep space exploration, but it should have been on the moon.


77 posted on 09/28/2005 10:49:13 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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[ Shuttle and Space Station were Mistakes, Space Agency Chief Tells US Daily ]

Boondoggles are seldom mistakes.. they were done on purpose..

86 posted on 09/28/2005 11:19:58 AM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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2019? That's 50 freakin' years since the first moon landing and the best hey can do is go back to where they went 50 years ago? That's pathetic. 50 years to progress and this is all they've got?
91 posted on 09/28/2005 11:50:32 AM PDT by isrul
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Hey I just posted this after doing a search and found nothing, the funny thing is "Whoa" was my inital comment too.


95 posted on 09/28/2005 12:46:49 PM PDT by tricky_k_1972 (Putting on Tinfoil hat and heading for the bomb shelter.)
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96 posted on 09/28/2005 12:53:31 PM PDT by tricky_k_1972 (Putting on Tinfoil hat and heading for the bomb shelter.)
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Shuttle and Space Station were Mistakes, Space Agency Chief Tells US Daily


Well, no shit.

I'll bet the taxpayers won't get their earnings back.........


100 posted on 09/28/2005 1:01:40 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock)
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Let's go for this one instead ...
http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/space_elevator_020327-1.html


103 posted on 09/28/2005 1:07:30 PM PDT by sono
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This is horrible timing. The budget cutters are looking for offsets for hurricane relief and questioning the Mars initiative. Although he is talking about NEO, it will get broad brushed into an indictment of the entire space program and used by those who want to kill manned spaceflight altogether IMO.
122 posted on 09/28/2005 2:24:20 PM PDT by Truth29
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Shuttle a mistake? Space Station a mistake?

Maybe NASA is a mistake. Maybe private enterprise is the answer.

130 posted on 09/28/2005 3:38:25 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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I think NASA needs to break out of a vicious cycle and propose something radical like terraforming Venus or building a space elevator.


136 posted on 09/28/2005 4:12:34 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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I like this guy... We should have continued the Apollo program... Also we should have found a way to keep the Skylab space station in orbit...


143 posted on 09/28/2005 5:18:48 PM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles --> http://www.cafepress.com/kevinspace1)
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Failure Is Not An Option dogma bump.
145 posted on 09/28/2005 5:51:10 PM PDT by clyde asbury (Reality is the new fiction, they say. Truth is truer these days; truth is man-made.)
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The US space agency NASA lost its way in the 1970s when it focused on the space shuttle and International Space Station, NASA chief Michael Griffin reportedly said.

"It is now commonly accepted that was not the right path," Griffin said. "We are now trying to change the path while doing as little damage as we can."

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Like Federal Express change the way Americans view the US Post Office, private companies with change the way Americans view NASA.


Virgin Galactic plans to sell $200,000 rides into space

(Not so fast, said federal regulators.)
Go figure!

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NASA chief Michael Griffin is a loser and should be replaced because American were sold this kind of space station via Hollywood.

But NASA build this thing.

Hollywood does effect the federal budget
with fantasy to the tax payers, then Congress
delivers the cold reality.

150 posted on 09/29/2005 12:20:20 AM PDT by Major_Risktaker
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