Posted on 09/27/2005 9:10:31 AM PDT by Crackingham
If there was an "intelligence" that created us, then we were "created", and therefore ID is creationism.
The exact deity, or being, or it, or its anthropomorphic nature is irrelevant.
Designers create.
That ID *is* creationism is at the heart of the matter. Because if the ID hypothesis were to be true, then there can be a scientific claim that someone's God is indeed fact, which effects the First Amendment establishment clause.
Although, if ID actually did have evidence to support it, then genuine scientists would be clamoring to the bandwagon. What scientist wouldn't love to get the Nobel for discovering God? The scientist to do that would be more famous than Einstein.
Ummm ... nice cat.
We have two cats and a dog. I swear they tell jokes about me to each other because I catch them laughing at me all the time. I've told the dog to go get my cat a couple of times - which she did. The cat doesn't come to me unless I have treats in my hand.
They are all much brighter than I am.
Yes. I am not a CR.
The only way the perfect "christian world order" on earth will happen is when Christ returns. The sooner the better.
Until then...I'm stuck talking to you. Talk about "hell" on earth. ;)
something fishy about that last post.
You should see what I got in my garage:
oh, no... what have I started?
Here in Nebraska, we call it heck.
I turned, and eyed the window where I could make out Goldilocks at the table, eating from the middle bowl ... that damned middle bowl, not too small, not too large. Just right. Just. So. Damned. Right. Silently, I started calculating the effect a pane of glass would have on the trajectory of a rock thrown from a driveway.
And you know this how?
It has been shown that evolution has taken, and is indeed taking, place. Why is it offensive to you that many believe God used this evolutionary mechanism to create life and the universe as we know it today?
Scientists have the advantage here. Because every intelligent person has to consider the proofs of evolution as they have been so far "evolved." But of course, scientists are not required to believe in an Intelligent Designer as they attempt to unravel Evolution and develop answers to the many questions it poses.
I don't get where the 'beef' is. How does it harm "Science" if some people choose to believe Evolution is a tool of the Creator in whom we believe? Evolution exists. Intelligent Design is one theory on WHY it exists.
I think those who fight Intelligent Design are belligerent because they think, like you apparently, it is a way to counter Biblical Creationism. Strict Creationists are opposed to admitting the existence of evolution as a life form developmental mechanism. Period.
By fighting Intelligent Design, which does nothing but enhance your position, you are making common cause, in a very weird way, with anti-scientific forces. You want every one to believe there is no God. They want everyone to believe there is a God, but no evolution.
But if you put it in an educational setting, one would certainly want young people to know their science. Many of us would like them to know, or at least be able to speculate, to what end science, and indeed all human knowledge exists.
Creationists and Atheistic Scientists are polar opposites. The young learn nothing from your fight. You think, and with some reason, that God does not belong in the public market place of ideas. But of course, itiseminently fair to teach that some people
Is it true that the "N" on the Nebraska football team's helmet stands for "Nolledge"?
And, strange to tell, among that Earthen Lot
Some could articulate, while others not:
And suddenly one more impatient cried---
"Who *is* the Potter, pray, and who the Pot?"
--Omar
He's just trying to get you mad. I've been watching creationists for over 50 years; this is one of their more common traits. Those with no sense of morals project their lack onto others.
You're funny!
As my vision narrowed down to the window and the bronze halo of hair wreathing her head, my mind kept wandering to those bears. I'd seen her talking to them -- especially the little one. I'd once caught a glimpse of him hanging around down on the corner, eyeing the house but quickly trotting away when I approached. Something was going on. Something I just couldn't put my finger on...
Bulwer-Lytton was the better writer, even on dark and stormy nights.
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