Posted on 09/27/2005 6:37:12 AM PDT by areafiftyone
Ahhh the voice of reason! Thank you!
Hillary is the best thing the Republican Party has going for it.
And that is PATHETIC.
Yeah, Hitler was competent (the trains ran on time, especially to the concentration camps) also.
And so were the jack-booted government thugs that recently went against their oath to support and defend the Constitution (state and federal), by following the illegal, UNCONSTITUTIONAL orders of corrupt, inept Louisiana officials, by CONFISCATING the guns of law-abiding citizens.
Those JBT's were VERY competent at doing that, and I think RINO Rudy would be just the type of power-hungry, gun-grabbing bureaucrat to do this same thing at the drop of a hat, if he thought he could get away with it.
I think integrity, respect for our Constitution, including ALL of the Bill of Rights (not just the parts RINO Rudy, and his ilk, like), respect for life (especially that of the innocent and defenseless, like unborn babies), respect for religion and religious beliefs, and respect for our country's history and traditions are most important in gauging the leadership qualities of our prospective leaders.
After we gauge a prospective leader on those primary points above, then we can look at competence, and other traits that will be important issues for our elected leaders in the next, and all subsequent elections (if we don't let the demonRATs take power again).
Yeah, Hitler was competent (the trains ran on time, especially to the concentration camps) also.
And so were the jack-booted government thugs that recently went against their oath to support and defend the Constitution (state and federal), by following the illegal, UNCONSTITUTIONAL orders of corrupt, inept Louisiana officials, by CONFISCATING the guns of law-abiding citizens.
Those JBT's were VERY competent at doing that, and I think RINO Rudy would be just the type of power-hungry, gun-grabbing bureaucrat to do this same thing at the drop of a hat, if he thought he could get away with it.
I think integrity, respect for our Constitution, including ALL of the Bill of Rights (not just the parts RINO Rudy, and his ilk, like), respect for life (especially that of the innocent and defenseless, like unborn babies), respect for religion and religious beliefs, and respect for our country's history and traditions are most important in gauging the leadership qualities of our prospective leaders.
After we gauge a prospective leader on those primary points above, then we can look at competence, and other traits that will be important issues for our elected leaders in the next, and all subsequent elections (if we don't let the demonRATs take power again).
You are "seeing" a fantasy of your own imagining. There is no Cult of Personality here and making that ridiculous claim just shows you don't know what one really is.
Guiliani is a leader who can get things done and that is what the Executive branch is supposed to be. He has tackled extremely difficult problems successfully: cleaning up and making safer NYC (which many considered impossible) and attacking the Mob. There is no potential candidate with equivalent credentials.
You have a false understanding of the issue. First, can you show me in the Constitution where it says that people can marry other people of the same sex? Can you even show me "sexual orientation" in the Constitution? No, you can't.
Homosexuals have the same rights I do - they can marry anyone they want...of the opposite sex. What they want are SPECIAL rights. If you allow gays to marry then you cannot forbid polygamy or father marrying daughter - they all can claim a special right. Thereinlies the rub.
Invoking Godwin's law. Over and out.
The effectiveness of any argument is inversely related to the number of times Hitler is thrown into it. Hence you should work on yours. Oh yeah and using "Jackbooted Thugs" in the same argument also loses points big time. I do commend you for not throwing in "fascist."
Embarassing ain't it? Tellya another dirty little secret? Rudy ain't exactly a red-nosed reindeer when it comes to adventurous interactions with the opposite sex. He's also a "my way or the highway" kinda guy, with a petty jealous streak about who gets credit for what. In fact he drove out the best police chief NYC ever had because the guy was getting kinda famous.
Yo, Rudy, love ya babe. Take a friggin' hike ... or a FEMA job.
I think you have a false understanding of what I wrote. I never said marriage was a Constitutional right or that I favored Gay Marriage as law. I never said they should receive "special" rights or that "sexual orientation" was mentioned in the Constitution. Read again.."I do NOT favor gay marriage for one".....
"The choice is between Rudy and Hillary." - babaloo
That statement is false. Allen, McCain, and Giuliani each have about a 20% chance of nomination, and the GOP nominee has about a 50% chance of winning the election - do the math.
Thanks for the laugh. You made my morning.
Am I the only one who thinks if Rudy G. became serious about the Presidency he would move to the right? Look at where he was trying to get elected in when he was mayor. You aren't going to be very successful as a very right of center candidate in NYC. Nationally it is a different story. We see Hillary doing it, why do we think politicians from the right won't do the same thing?
Maybe Rudy's mom would agree with you.
Whoever the Republicans run for President in 2008, they would be well-advised to have someone on the ticket, either in the first spot or the second, who is strong on the Second Amendment. And I don't mean just lip service. I mean someone like Tom DeLay, who is not afraid to be seen in the company of law-abiding gun owners.
For entirely too long the Republicans have taken it for granted that gun owners would take one look at the gun-grabbing Democrats and vote in a block for the Republican candidate no matter what. Those days are over. There are other choices out there.
To get my vote in the next presidential election the Republican candidate, whoever he or she is, had better be vocal on a daily basis in favor of the right to keep and bear arms. And it would not hurt him or her to be a Life Member of the NRA. I guess that rules out gun-hating John McInsane.
In my view, anyone who votes for a candidate as LIBERAL as Rudy is at least a wishy-washy conservative and at most a liberal himself.
Nobody, but nobody, on either side of the aisle, is as big a gun grabber as Guiliani.
If you work for the government, you can own a gun. If you don't work for the government and you need a gun, call somebody from the government to come and assist you.
How sad it is that most Republicans have abandoned conservative principles of Ronald Reagan, and that the party can no longer stomach true conservatism (the lineup of liberal speakers at the last GOP convention is a clue to this reality). The GOP is no longer conservative - most are light democrats. It is just a matter of time before people start bolting this morally compromised party - the sooner the better!
I should have stated, "For the purposes of this argument, the choice is between Rudy and Hillary". Sheesh!
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