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Giuliani Looking Good Right About Now
Town Hall ^ | 9/27/05 | Lorie Byrd

Posted on 09/27/2005 6:37:12 AM PDT by areafiftyone

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To: areafiftyone

Years ago I was on the Fulton Mall -- back in the days when it was dangerous -- and there was Marty outside of the Modells, surrounded by gangsta type rapper types learning how to dance. They had a little Nissan with more speakers than engine and these tough guys were showing Marty the moves. Now I'd normally write it off to just another pol catering to the voters, but the guy was really trying to dance. Half an hour later, I walked by and they were still trying to teach him.


161 posted on 09/27/2005 1:02:34 PM PDT by durasell
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To: durasell

ROfLMAO! That's priceless!


162 posted on 09/27/2005 1:03:33 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: areafiftyone

Yeah, it looked hopeless. And he was getting sweaty. A sweaty Marty is not a pretty picture.


163 posted on 09/27/2005 1:04:22 PM PDT by durasell
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To: durasell

I bet you the Rappers were having a field day with the white guy with no rythmn. They probably thought he had guts though!


164 posted on 09/27/2005 1:08:06 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: HitmanNY
In any case, what makes Rudy pro gay in a way that will seriously impact national policy, and in a way that you find distasteful enough to trump national security concerns?

If you think an amoral America can survive, you are wrong. That is a decidedly secular point of view and it is at odds with the views of the men who founded this country. They did not believe America could survive without the blessing of God. The question is: How long will God strive with a nation that murders its young, outlaws His name in public, and subverts His institutions? I dare say, not much longer.

It's simple. I do not believe God will protect a country that dishonors and rebels against his immutable moral laws. And make no mistake, Bush and the government cannot protect you - 911 proved that. We have been told by our own government officials that it is not a question of "if" but "when" terrorists attack us with nuclear weapons (ponder that if you will in context with the open border and political correctness).

Only God can protect us. But, instead of turning to God, America has been busy erasing Him from the public square and rebelling against his moral laws, and you want to continue to set Him aside in order to win a war that cannot be won without God's favor.

165 posted on 09/27/2005 1:10:14 PM PDT by SmartCitizen
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To: durasell
After Clinton, I don't think trying to use anyone's past against them works much anymore, except with folks like SmartCitizen. But I could be wrong.

If Giuliani is hanging around with the tutsones(sp?), thats understandable. Was Tony around? As long as he didn't hang around the 'Bing, Rudi's good.

166 posted on 09/27/2005 1:14:09 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: muleskinner
After Clinton, I don't think trying to use anyone's past against them works much anymore, except with folks like SmartCitizen. But I could be wrong.

I hope you are wrong but fear you are right. What this shows is the PROGRESSIVE nature of moral decay and decadence and licentiousness. America is in a moral freefall. Everyone must ask themselves, "Where does it end?"

FOOD FOR THOUGHT: A famous man once said, "Licentiousness destroys order, and when chaos ensues, the yearning for order will destroy liberty."

167 posted on 09/27/2005 1:18:09 PM PDT by SmartCitizen
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To: Wright Wing

You're not a Conservative by any stretch of the imagination.


168 posted on 09/27/2005 1:22:19 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: Wright Wing
"Rudy Giuliani is the best leader in this country bar none. I am not a single issue Conservative as are most Democrats and some here. Rudy would simply be the best for the country. The positive changes he brought to NYC seemed almost impossible to imagine. He did it with enthusiasm and grace. He has my vote."

Abortion........Homosexual Agenda.........Anti-Gun. That's THREE issues you liberal gun-grabbing blue zone %$#%$#@$#!. So save that "Single Issue" LIE for your NYC Faggot buddies.

169 posted on 09/27/2005 1:30:05 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: dead

because of poor enforcement of existing laws. then let's enforce the existing laws.


170 posted on 09/27/2005 1:40:39 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: nonliberal
"Guliani is anti-gun, pro-homo, and pro-abortion."

- Listen my friend, if Hitlery can be painted as, "moving to the center" after throwing a few meaningless verbal crumbs to the media, then Guliani should be able to qualify his position on guns, homo's and abortion in such a way as to mollify all but the barking moonbat fringe of the Republican Party. Nobody ever accused him of being stupid or lacking in eloquence and I'm sure that if he comes out against partial birth abortion, full civil rights but not marriage rights for homos and if he paints gun control as a low priority on his "to do" list, then I think he can take the rank and file with him and probably a lot of moderate democrats as well. Especially if he's shrewd enough to pick Condi as his VP running mate.
171 posted on 09/27/2005 1:44:59 PM PDT by finnigan2
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To: oceanview
My exact point is that Rudy Guiliani doesn't want to merely enforce existing law, he wants to greatly EXPAND federal gun laws.

Read his OWN words.

172 posted on 09/27/2005 1:49:03 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Cincinna

In a perfect world, of course we would all like someone conservative and unapologetically so. There seems to be no such person who can win on the horizon.

Therefore, we have to settle for someone. I am horrified at GWB on most domestic issues. If anything I prefer the late 90's style of governance where there were actually battles about spending. Now we have a bunch of pigs feeding at the slaughter on the taxpayer dollar.


173 posted on 09/27/2005 1:56:02 PM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patto)
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To: durasell

I live on the border of NYC literally. The neighborhoods are much safer and it is noticable. What good is having a moral leader who can't stop crime and lawlessness?


174 posted on 09/27/2005 2:00:37 PM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patto)
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To: durasell

I live on the border of NYC literally. The neighborhoods are much safer and it is noticable. What good is having a moral leader who can't stop crime and lawlessness?


175 posted on 09/27/2005 2:00:39 PM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton)
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To: durasell

Bloomberg has done a good job. Ferrer would be a disaster of Dinkins proportions if elected.


176 posted on 09/27/2005 2:03:45 PM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton)
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To: SmartCitizen

I agree with everything you said, but that has nothing to do with a pro gay or anti gay policy. Do you think that Rudy is pro gay, and if so, what does that have to do with what you wrote?


177 posted on 09/27/2005 2:12:32 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: Kenny Bunk; SmartCitizen; veronica; justshutupandtakeit; nonliberal
Embarassing ain't it? Tellya another dirty little secret? Rudy ain't exactly a red-nosed reindeer when it comes to adventurous interactions with the opposite sex. He's also a "my way or the highway" kinda guy, with a petty jealous streak about who gets credit for what. In fact he drove out the best police chief NYC ever had because the guy was getting kinda famous.

Precisely. All these paeans to his "competence" ignore the mean, self-righteous, vindictive streak in this man. This is a man who resents being disagreed with and hears only what he wants to hear. And there are doubtless lots of Bernie Keriks in his inner circle.

Giuliani authorized cops to confiscate the cars of drivers on the spot whom they suspected of drunk driving. We have a little something in this country about nobody being deprived of liberty or property without due process of law. Apparently he missed that in law school. Do you want this guy with the powers of the Patriot Act ?

178 posted on 09/27/2005 2:30:24 PM PDT by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: Sam the Sham

If the contest is between HRC and RG I have no doubt that Rudi is much preferred. At this time I await another Republican who can beat her. Until I hear of one we will have to see what happens.


179 posted on 09/27/2005 2:41:11 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: chris1; HitmanNY

Here's DURASELL'S THEORY OF EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT NYC:

A)NYC is about two things -- making money and work. That's it. Period. People come here to compete for the money and the jobs. What they do on their own time is nobody's concern. A bit of history -- when the Brits sailed into the harbor, Peter Stuy was ready to fight them tooth and nail to keep the city Dutch. The Brits, very sensibly said, "Be British and we avoid noise and fuss of a war, and everyone does business as usual." After that Peter could get two dogs on his side.

B)NYC is a large, highly complicated machine that no one politician can control. Bloomberg, Rudy, etc. etc. are just pieces of that machine, no different than the guys at Hunts Point (food) or the MTA(transportation). All they can do is keep the cops, firemen, teachers, garbage guys working etc. They can fine tune it, as appropriate, but that's about it. Nobody is in control. It's too complex.

C)Crime rises and falls with the economy and the impact of outside influences, i.e. crack, gangs, etc. etc.

D)NYC is amoral -- not immoral, but amoral. This makes it a test of character. We probably have more churches and other places of worship than any other city our size along with more places to indulge whatever vice a fevered imagination can summon up. Often this produces surprising results as well. Little known fact is that Warhol, king of the hipsters, used to attend mass regularly, four or five times a week at a tiny church on the upper east side. Conversely, not a week goes by when some seemingly religious guy can't be seen over on the west side cruising tranvestites.

E) It only seems safer. You can still get into serious trouble very, very quickly and for no other reason than being in the wrong place at the wrong time.


180 posted on 09/27/2005 4:44:42 PM PDT by durasell
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