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Daughter of Lesbian Couple Expelled - Women Plan to Protest Outside Ontario Christian School
Daily Bulletin ^ | September 25, 2005 | Mason Stockstill

Posted on 09/26/2005 10:31:48 PM PDT by Bonaparte

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To: radioman; Bonaparte; grellis

There you go again. Your logic is simply undiagrammable.

You're not a Christian, so you don't have to respond to Christian arguments.

BUT you feel free to fault an institution for not being good Christians... and you'll take a verse out of context to seal your point.

So you feel you know enough of Christianity to tell others how to be what you're not... but not enough to be held accountable for anything you say.

This is fairly typical, but still nonsensical. I have never read the Koran through; I don't tell Muslims how to be good Muslims. I've never read the Book of Mormon all the way through; I don't tell Mormons how to be good Mormons.

What makes you feel qualified to tell this school they're not being good Christians?

Dan


261 posted on 09/28/2005 12:00:22 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: trubluolyguy
Expelling a kid from school is not an attack

Yes it is. She was expelled not because of anything she did, but because you find what her mother does with her crotch "disgusting". I just happen to believe that the child is more important than what her mother does with her crotch.
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262 posted on 09/28/2005 12:00:33 PM PDT by radioman
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To: radioman

I just happen to believe that the child is more important than what her mother does with her crotch.




And I just happen to believe that telling the truth is more important too. These "parents' obviously lied to get their "family" accepted in to the private Christian school. So we should now keep the kid in the school and in so doing teach her that it is ok to lie if you really feel good about the reason you are doing it?


263 posted on 09/28/2005 12:04:29 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (I am conservative. That is NOT the same thing as Republican. Don't place party over principle.)
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To: BibChr
You're not a Christian, so you don't have to respond to Christian arguments. What makes you feel qualified to tell this school they're not being good Christians?

This is a Conservative forum, not Sunday School. If you can't take the heat, stop trying to claim the moral high ground. You want the freedom to tell us how to live our lives in "Christian America" but all you show us is your willingness to ignore the teachings of your prophet as you punish an innocent child.
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264 posted on 09/28/2005 12:09:09 PM PDT by radioman
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To: trubluolyguy
These "parents' obviously lied to get their "family" accepted in to the private Christian school.

The parents lied...punish the child. She is a good student. She is a credit to the school. All of her friends are Christian.
What would Jesus do?
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265 posted on 09/28/2005 12:16:50 PM PDT by radioman
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To: radioman
"I'm not a Biblical guy."

This is the first thing you've said that I can fully agree with, radioman.

And although you now admit that you're "not a Biblical guy," that doesn't stop you from presenting yourself as a greater authority than Paul, an apostle of Jesus Himself, and passing judgment on Christians who are much more "Biblical guys" than you are.

One fact is inescapable, radioman. If you criticize Christians who reject families that persist in unrepentent sin, then you also criticize Jesus Himself for the same thing. For He commands us to put Him above all others, including our parents.

By her own public statement, quoted in the article, Shay Clark does not place Jesus above her "parents.'" After years of opportunity to love God above these unrepentent sinners, she has chosen the unrepentent sinners over God.

    "Unless you repent, you shall not enter the kingdom of heaven."

This entire "family" has remained unrepentent for years. They are as shameless as you are when you call your own self-contradiction "a perspective on my opinion for the sake of honesty." The school is adhering strictly to the teachings and example of Jesus and his apostles.

266 posted on 09/28/2005 12:17:15 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: radioman

Let me try out a theory. This whole mess has nothing to do with Christians. It has to do with the parents of other kids not wanting their kids "exposed" to lesbians.


267 posted on 09/28/2005 12:20:34 PM PDT by durasell
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To: BibChr; radioman
[BibChr to radioman]:

"So you feel you know enough of Christianity to tell others how to be what you're not... but not enough to be held accountable for anything you say."

BibChr, I pray the Lord that He will one day gift me with eloquence such as yours.

268 posted on 09/28/2005 12:21:32 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: radioman; grellis; Bonaparte

Were you conscious that you were doing exactly what I described, in that posting?

In other words, you insist on the right to whine and snipe, but accept no responsibility for the content or quality of your whining, bail out when you receive contentful response, then simply repeat your original whining and sniping.

Typical liberal. In that regard, even if in no other.

Dan


269 posted on 09/28/2005 12:22:01 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: radioman
"This is a Conservative forum, not Sunday School."

    Then I have to wonder why you are giving us your own preachy lessons on Christian ethics.

"...the teachings of your prophet..."

    Oh, my...

    You're really not a "Biblical guy" at all, are you? Demoting Jesus Christ, the Living God, to the rank of a mere "prophet"?

    Forgive me for laughing, but you are the last person on Earth to lecture Christians on Christianity. At this point, and since you are unwilling to engage rational argument, your strongest argument would be silence.


270 posted on 09/28/2005 12:35:46 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte
doesn't stop you from presenting yourself as a greater authority than Paul

Baloney!
In other words, you can't refute anything I've said.

passing judgment on Christians who are much more "Biblical guys" than you are

I see...it's ok to pass judgement on an innocent child, but don't point out the hypocrisy of those who judge!

unrepentent sin

What about the sin of rejecting an innocent child?

then you also criticize Jesus Himself for the same thing. For He commands us to put Him above all others, including our parents

Are you telling me Jesus commands you to punish a child for the sin of the parent?

By her own public statement, quoted in the article, Shay Clark does not place Jesus above her "parents.'"

Do you?

The school is adhering strictly to the teachings and example of Jesus and his apostles.

Sounds like Islam!
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271 posted on 09/28/2005 12:35:51 PM PDT by radioman
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To: radioman
"Are you telling me Jesus commands you to punish a child for the sin of the parent?"

Well, radioman, Jesus, Who is God, Who has been here since the foundation, and Who has always been with the Father, expelled our parents, Adam and Even, from the paradise of the garden and punished all the generations for their original sin. So what do you think the answer to your question is?

272 posted on 09/28/2005 12:42:26 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: radioman
[Bonaparte]: "The school is adhering strictly to the teachings and example of Jesus and his apostles."

[radioman]: " Sounds like Islam!"
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Oh, my, my, my. Adhering strictly to one's principles puts one in league with Islamics?

Some people might think you need rest.

273 posted on 09/28/2005 12:51:03 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: radioman
Are you telling me Jesus commands you to punish a child for the sin of the parent?

What a lame strawman. The child is being 'hurt' due to the dishonest actions of her alledged 'parents', plain and simple. They sought to use this as a wedge issue to force a Christian Church to condone homosexual behavior. They used this girl as a pawn in their little game. So who's punishing/hurting who? Behavior has consequences and these 'parent's' actions have cause this to occur.

274 posted on 09/28/2005 12:52:46 PM PDT by Godzilla (I'm not suffering from insanity, I'm actually enjoying it.)
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To: radioman

This isn't about religion, despite what the other posters say.


275 posted on 09/28/2005 12:54:02 PM PDT by durasell
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To: radioman
If you don't like the answer I gave you in post 272, maybe we can take things one step further...

The Father punished the blameless Son for our sins so that we might escape our richly deserved punishment and He did so with the full cooperation of the Son.

How is that, radioman?

It's all about balancing justice with mercy.

The court sends the murdering family man to prison and his child is now without a source of support. It's too bad, but if he isn't sent to prison, murder goes unpunished.

Just as God balances His perfect justice with His perfect mercy, we must balance our imperfect justice with our imperfect mercy.

276 posted on 09/28/2005 1:07:05 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: durasell
"This isn't about religion"

LOL! Keep saying it, durasell. Maybe you'll start believing it. Are you sure you're not really the Eveready Bunny?

277 posted on 09/28/2005 1:09:23 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte

Some people simply do not like lesbians. They find them offensive.


278 posted on 09/28/2005 1:13:51 PM PDT by durasell
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To: durasell
Some people?

Do you mean some others might dislike lesbianism because their scriptures tell them it's an abomination?

Is that possible?

279 posted on 09/28/2005 1:17:30 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte

Absolutely. But I have seen religious folks form lasting and genuine bonds with gay people, including lesbians. I have seen ministers and priests comfort them when in distress. And I have seen them accepted and welcomed into churches. Including lesbians.


That said, I, personnally, am not that crazy about their unseemly skill at softball. Losing to a lesbian is still losing to a girl. I can't get past that.


280 posted on 09/28/2005 1:22:27 PM PDT by durasell
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