Posted on 09/26/2005 5:44:09 AM PDT by DARCPRYNCE
This doesn't cause me any stress. Pointing out the idiocies of this claptrap is FUN!!
I seriously doubt your namecalling brings more people into the evo flock.
Well, I am not evangelizing on behalf of anything. A scientific theory is accurate or not on its own and depends not a whit on whether the general public believes it. But, further, so long as there is a First Amendment, the drive to teach this ID/creationism drivel in school science classes will fail, irrespective of its popularity with the ill-informed.
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No, God created the universe is a fact, just as Jesus came to this earth and died for your sins is a fact. The Holy Bible explains that fact. And anyone who claims not to believe in this is, in the words of God, “a fool”. Look it up.
I've looked it up and the Jews say Jesus was just a man and certainly no Messiah; the Muslims say he was a prophet of Allah and has disdain for the Christians who insult him by saying he was the Son of God; the Rastafarians are p.o.'ed that you didn't point out that Haile Selassie I was the Messiah returned, thereby denying his divinity; and the Hindus, atheists, Buddhists, Animists, Wiccans, Confucionists, agnostics, Sikhs, etc., etc., etc., all had more important things to discuss.
Thanks. These threads are always fascinating.
You are attempting to prove something by assuming the conclusion that the Bible is the word of God. Some creationists argue that logic is important. Apparently others don't.
Dude, you missed the most important source. The actual Bible. Why read what others have to say about him when he tells you in his own words.
Apply this to something close to you. Would you like me to tell you about Darwin from what others who are "enemies" or friends say. You would not accept those others as reliable sources of someones character...why would you accept it about God? Read his word and you do not have to concern yourself about what others say.
If you approach him in humility, he will reveal himself to you personally.
FYI:
Take a look at Biblical Hermeneutics The Science of Interpreting the Bible.
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Take a look at Biblical Hermeneutics The Science of Interpreting the Bible.
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My mistake. My quote vs post detector suffered interference at that time.
Its an attack on the human "spirit" and any other kind of "Spirit".. i.e God..
Is the human body a vehicle for a spirit?..
or merely or grandly a "three dimensional lifeform".?..
Because those are the questions that evolution poses..
Where did the human body come from?.. is minutia..
And is argued as a diversion from the REAL questions.. on purpose or not..
Intelligent atheists should be saying, "If there is no god, well, there ought to be one... as a lament not proudly as if they knew something as a mere primate.. If there is no god then one should be invented immediately.. The smartest thing mankind ever did was invent Gods.. them being Primates.. Apeing reality..
d;-)~.'.'
Every culture has invented a God.
Does this tell you something about the nature of the infinite?
Or does it tell you something about the nature of man?
The other day I was watching the hummingbirds after the cardinal flowers. The blur of the wings, the angling balance of the tail, the hovering, the fearlessness of humans, moving backwards and downwards like a helicopter...no other bird can do these things. No other bird is so small, or burns so much fuel. So, where's the "in between " bird and hummingbird--? For such differences to emerge, you'd need several "missing links."
It's this logical problem that I don't hear addressed, or the question I always ask--how do you evolve an immune system while you're busy trying to evolve a beating heart? And eyes, and the skin...the computer-hormone chemical system that makes an organism's organs all "talk" to one another? And don't you always need a Mrs. to go with your newly-evolved Mr. Species?
Why hasn't centuries of breeding livestock, in geographic isolation, not produced a new species of something? If it happens so readily by accident, why can't it be reproduced on purpose?
I did study some biology, and believe that it is really impossible to study life without using the "tree of life" theory as a paradigm to illustrate the interrelatedness of organisms.
And the "scientists" themselves use language dogmatic, patronizing and unscientific. They don't speak in terms of "best reasonable explanation"--but insist that you believe--
BOTH.. but both terms, "infinite" and "nature of man" are nebulous terms.. with infinite iterations..
Humility and gratitude are not nebulous and are two of the rarest things on earth.. and doors into "awareness".. Awareness into what?.. I dunno, I havent fully arrived there yet myself..
But my point is that the Jews, Muslims, Rastas, Hindus, etc. all claim to be friends of God, and that you are the "enemy of God," just as you are claiming to be the friend of God and that they are the enemies. You say the Bible is his word, and the others say you are wrong. On that evidence, determining who is a "fool" and who is not is simply a fruitless challenge.
Well, you do have a saintly view of scientists. Sometimes it looks to me like a relentless thirst for Grant Money. Science can be a tough business, sometimes a corrupting one, and it'd be nice to think that it was a Monastery of Truth-Seeking...maybe on good days, it is.
We can make a Shaman of a scientist as easily as we did Jim Jones. They are limited by "original sin"---just like all of us.
There was a NOVA program last week about the "Scablands" in Washington. Apparently they're fairly unique geologically - dry waterfalls, areas that look like waves lapping, etc, and 1 guy - don't remember his name - proposed that they had been formed by a large flood of water about 15,000 years ago. He didn't know where the water might have come from.
The scientists of the day said - how could that be, we know the earth was formed millions of years ago in a low process - and basically shut him up for a number of years.
Then, about 10 years later, another scientist discovered some unique geological features in Montana. It looked like there was a glacier there, forming a large body of water, and then the glacier gave way and the water was released, thereby forming the scablands and other unique features.
I fell asleep a little while after, but understand from a friend that the scientists finally decided that this was one of many things that affected the geology over huge amounts of time.
Short and not very good summary, but I thought it was interesting that the bias (can I say that about scientists??) of his colleagues prevented the true information from being recognized for many years.
We may have just a bit of that kind of groupthink going on these days, whatcha think?
I see what you are saying. If you dont see any difference between those religions than sure...thats what you'd think. The god those other religions discuss is not the same as mine. Mine is the God of the Bible. The Christian God.
Dealing with the afterlife is ultimately more important than how we all started here. Maybe someday you can PM me and we'll discuss why Christ matters.
And btw, my "fool" reference is simply doing a biblical word search on "fool". Proverbs has great short quotes full of wisdom and wit. It is not how I define that word...its how Gods Word does.
Yeah, that representative republican form of government can be a real bitch, especially if you don't have the majority.
okay:)
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