Posted on 09/26/2005 3:27:53 AM PDT by Crackingham
You avered something. It's up to you to support it or withdraw it, not me.
Se especially the interview with Eichler in post 98.
If you are not familar with the t.o. tract linked, then it is not my job to read it for you and it is strange that you would comment on something you haven't read.
The 96% similarity between chimpanzee and human genomes includes the whole genome, including the parts that are not functional, and this divergance occured over 6 million years. In contrast the genomes of rats and mice are less than 90% similar (and they happen to split between 12 and 20 million years ago). So chimpanzees and humans are very close as far as life goes. Only a few genes seperate the two species. When only genes are considered chimpanzee and human are more like 98-99% similar.
You've posted a lot of words, but I don't see any of them casting any doubt on evolution. Do you have a point?
Why do you think they should cast doubt on evolution?
Try to remember what you posted that I responded to.
No.
See 98.
Right okay, when only genes are considered chimpanzee and human are more like 97-98% similar.
Biochemistry creates order from chaos. If it didn't then you and I would not be breathing. While everything generally tends to disorder, sub-systems such as organisms can increase their order at the expense of other systems (such as the environment).
I send hours explaining my positions to others on these threads. If you want to mimic AndrewC and smirk about your superior intellect, fine.
I have not been rude; I simply asked for an explanation. The only buzzword I see in your article is a reference to non-random rates of mutation. It that the gap the designer lives in?
When the whole genome is considered, or at least most of it -- junk and all -- it is about 98-99% the same.
There are about 3 trillion bases in human, chimp and other large mammalin genomes.
In post whatever it was I quoted from the original article where they indicated their sequence homology came from at least 2.4 Gigabase high quality reads -- eg reliable sequence data -- to determine that homology.
The lower and more surprising levels of difference (or similarity) is on a more complex analysis of structural or organizational motifs within the genome. I posted an article that interviewed the senior author of that article in the Chimp genome special issue.
Trillions of bases split over 23 or 24 physical entities (ie the chromosomes) is a lot to compare and contrast and there is not an easy straightforward way to do it.
Nor have I.
I simply asked for an explanation.
And I tried to provide one as directly as possible and also with as much external backing as possible by actually quoting from the article on the chimp genome and by posting the entire article about Eichler's article and comments by Eichler himself.
One more time -- the 98 - 99% figure is for the whole genome, not just coding regions.
Exactly how much meth do you guys do each night? Just tell me in clearly understood scientific terms the molecular basis for the THEORY of evolution. You can't. It's a black box. Irreducible complexity. You guys have got to get a real life. You're becoming very boring!
OK. I'm not terribly concerned about the difference of a few percentage points. I'm interested in your analysis of what is important and why.
And yes, you are being rude. You are playing a game by suggesting you have some information or analysis that has escaped everyone else.
BTTT
As far as the second, organisms, from humans to bacteria, take in energy wihich counters entropic effects.
This energy comes from eating or sunlight etc...
If an organism doesn't get this energy it does die and your point is made.
A car can go up a hill when it has gas to power an engine. Out of gas and it won't go up a hill. If we don't eat, we die.
I can't because your request makes no sense.
What is the molecular basis for the THEORY of gravitation?
I personally believe that God was behind the process of evolution, and he knew that humankind would result. But I also believe that God intended the process to go (almost) entirely of its own accord, or at least, if God directly intervened or directed the "random" process of evolution, we'll never be able to detect it scientifically.
What is important is what it is.
It is important because it is the study of nature and we as human beings aspire to higher knowledge and understanding and for beauty and the like for its own sake.
It also is beneficial for the implications that may come in understanding disease and being able to alleviate human suffering.
Point is the same.
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