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Anthrax terrorists outfox the FBI - Widow angered
timesonline.co.uk ^ | September 24, 2005

Posted on 09/24/2005 8:03:27 AM PDT by Gene Vidocq

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1 posted on 09/24/2005 8:03:27 AM PDT by Gene Vidocq
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To: Gene Vidocq

When people criticize the anti-terrorism effort I wish they would factor in the fact that there have been no more attacks (at least not successful ones.)


2 posted on 09/24/2005 8:08:47 AM PDT by gondramB ( A government which robs Peter to pay Paul, can always count on the support of Paul)
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To: Shermy; Mitchell; TrebleRebel; genefromjersey; Peach; Allan

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3 posted on 09/24/2005 8:09:39 AM PDT by Gene Vidocq (Damnation is the price he'll pay, for an evil man's desire.)
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To: Gene Vidocq
The failure to make one arrest in the case has astounded and dismayed many Americans.

Ya think? How big can the pool be of people who have the knowledge and access to the material? Shame.

4 posted on 09/24/2005 8:13:23 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Gene Vidocq

I thought the case was solved? I remember reading at several sites that a mad U.S. scientist did it. As far as I remember it had something to do with his research budget. He either wanted to get more and set the Anthrax free in order to get a budget increase for his Anthrax research, or he was angry because the government cut his budget.

When the stories about this case suddenly stopped I filed it under FBI cover-up.


5 posted on 09/24/2005 8:13:57 AM PDT by floridarolf (Admit it, Lance!)
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To: Gene Vidocq

So Stevens widow is suing the federal government. She seems terribly uninterested in the fact that her husband's boss rented apartments to the 9/11 hijackers. And those same 9/11 hijackers presented to doctors in the area with what was later identified as cutaneous anthrax.

But I guess it's hard to get money from dead men, so she'll sue the government instead. I have a word for her and it rhymes with witch.


6 posted on 09/24/2005 8:14:36 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: TrebleRebel

Double posted. Wanna hookup?

7 posted on 09/24/2005 8:17:22 AM PDT by Gene Vidocq (Damnation is the price he'll pay, for an evil man's desire.)
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To: Gene Vidocq
Why has it gone "cold"?

Because the Bushies did it to ramp up support for the Patriot Act, (which illegally removes our basic civil rights), in preparation for a right-wing, fascist takeover.

I'm not kidding, I actually overheard this conversation. Leftists really believe this.

No wonder they're losing.

8 posted on 09/24/2005 8:24:04 AM PDT by 1john2 3and4
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To: genefromjersey
Let the juices flow, brother!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1488313/posts

9 posted on 09/24/2005 8:29:30 AM PDT by Gene Vidocq (Damnation is the price he'll pay, for an evil man's desire.)
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To: Gene Vidocq

They traced the Anthrax back to a NIH lab in Maryland. NIH budget went from $300 million to $1.3 Billion the next year. I would put Dr. Fauci under oath if they want the truth...


10 posted on 09/24/2005 8:31:56 AM PDT by cmiller623 (Mayor Antonio Villa....or never mind. Los Angeles is doomed!)
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To: TrebleRebel

That certainly was a silly suggestion, wasn't it: 0


11 posted on 09/24/2005 8:44:46 AM PDT by Gene Vidocq (Damnation is the price he'll pay, for an evil man's desire.)
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To: Peach

Exactly. Not to mention ATTA signed the damn letters so we would know he did it.


12 posted on 09/24/2005 8:53:03 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: cmiller623
All roads lead to Detrick..

http://www.gazette.net/200204/brunswick/news/89020-1.html

http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/bioter/anthraxmissingarmylab.html

13 posted on 09/24/2005 8:56:48 AM PDT by Gene Vidocq (Damnation is the price he'll pay, for an evil man's desire.)
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To: cmiller623
http://www.janrainwater.com/htdocs/Anthrax-USArmy.htm

Capitol Hill Anthrax Matches Army's Stocks 5 Labs Can Trace Spores to Ft. Detrick By Rick Weiss and Susan Schmidt Washington Post Staff Writers Sunday, December 16, 2001; Page A01 Genetic fingerprinting studies indicate that the anthrax spores mailed to Capitol Hill are identical to stocks of the deadly bacteria maintained by the U.S. Army since 1980, according to scientists familiar with the most recent tests. Although many laboratories possess the Ames strain of anthrax involved in this fall's bioterrorist attacks, only five laboratories so far have been found to have spores with perfect genetic matches to those in the Senate letters, the scientists said. And all those labs can trace back their samples to a single U.S. military source: the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Disease (USAMRIID) at Fort Detrick, Md. "That means the original source [of the terrorist material] had to have been USAMRIID," said one of the scientists. Those matching samples are at Fort Detrick; the Dugway Proving Ground military research facility in Utah; a British military lab called Porton Down; and microbial depositories at Louisiana State University (LSU) and Northern Arizona University. Northern Arizona University received its sample from LSU, which received its sample from Porton Down. Dugway and Porton Down got their samples directly from USAMRIID.

14 posted on 09/24/2005 9:01:32 AM PDT by Gene Vidocq (Damnation is the price he'll pay, for an evil man's desire.)
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To: Battle Axe

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15 posted on 09/24/2005 9:02:35 AM PDT by Gene Vidocq (Damnation is the price he'll pay, for an evil man's desire.)
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To: Gene Vidocq

Don't forget Clinton suck pump and retired Admiral Crowe who is the director of the only company in the US which produces the anthrax vaccine.

http://www.sonic.net/~doretk/Issues/99-03%20SPR/anthrax.html


16 posted on 09/24/2005 9:02:56 AM PDT by Wristpin ( Varitek says to A-Rod: "We don't throw at .260 hitters.....")
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To: floridarolf



"I thought the case was solved?"



March 15, 2005

Anthrax alarm closes three mail facilities
By Daniel Pulliam
dpulliam@govexec.com

Anthrax detection systems at two Pentagon mailrooms sounded alarms Monday, resulting in the evacuation of four buildings and the shutdown of the Postal Service's facility that handles government mail.


Initial overnight tests on the samples from the Pentagon's Remote Delivery Facility in Arlington, Va., turned up positive, according to officials at the Health and Human Services Department. Tests on a second set of samples from the Pentagon-leased Skyline office complex in Falls Church, Va., discovered hours after the first alarm sounded, are not yet complete.


The positive samples are being tested at the Army's Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases at Fort Detrick, Md., to determine whether the spores are capable of causing disease. Results from this type of test usually take 24 to 48 hours, but an HHS spokesman said results could be available later today.


The Skyline office complex, located at 5111 Leesburg Pike in Falls Church, Va., remains closed along with the Remote Delivery Facility, but county officials said the general public is not at risk of exposure. About 275 Defense Department workers were potentially affected and 209 postal workers.


Defense employees who might have come into contact with anthrax are being asked to provide nasal swabs and are being given a three-day regimen of antibiotics. Initial anthrax symptoms - which usually do not take effect for several days - include fever, sweats and chills.


HHS spokesman Bill Hall said the only material that shows the possible existence of anthrax spores is the material from the Pentagon's Remote Delivery Facility. Since all government mail is radiated to kill bacteria, the detection of anthrax does not necessarily mean that the anthrax was alive.


Mailroom bacteria sensors are designed to detect material that might or might not be dangerous, Hall said. More precise tests that examine the material's DNA structure proved that the material in the Remote Delivery Facility was anthrax.


"There's no identified piece of mail, no powder," Hall said. "All we have is the sensors going off."


Postal Service spokesman Gerry McKiernan said there was no evidence of anthrax yet at the now-closed USPS facility. Sensors at the facility that sends mail to the Pentagon did not go off. The Defense mail facilities also handle interoffice mail and packages from outside couriers.

"We don't know if it was a piece of mail that caused [the Pentagon sensors] to go off," McKiernan said. "Nothing is amiss and nobody is sick. We don't have any reason to believe anybody has been contaminated."


Shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, anthrax was deliberately spread throughout the U.S. postal system in letters, leading to 22 cases of infection and five deaths.


CDC spokesman Llelwyn Grant said the agency is consulting with the Postal Service on doing environmental sampling at the facility that handles government mail. They are also providing postal workers possibly exposed to anthrax with safety recommendations.


"Based on the information made available to the CDC, we feel that the risk to postal workers is low, but we can't say that there is zero risk," Grant said. "Based on this information we believe it is prudent to take precautionary steps."



ANTHRAX MAILER:
lone wolf within the United States loner, opportunist

Los Angeles Times
Saturday, November 10, 2001


Profile of anthrax mailer portrays loner, opportunist.
Mail sorter may have spread anthrax.

Grim anthrax details released.



Washington -- The FBI increasingly is convinced that the person behind the anthrax attacks is a lone wolf within the United States who has no links to terrorist groups but is an "opportunist" using the Sept. 11 events to vent his rage, investigators said yesterday.

Based on case studies, handwriting and linguistic analysis, forensic data and other evidence, authorities do not believe at this point in their five- week investigation that Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network was behind the anthrax attacks, FBI officials said.

FBI investigators said at a news briefing that they likely are looking for an adult male with at least limited scientific expertise who was able to use easily obtained laboratory equipment for as little as $2,500 to produce a high- quality grade of anthrax.


17 posted on 09/24/2005 9:13:01 AM PDT by Gene Vidocq (Damnation is the price he'll pay, for an evil man's desire.)
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To: Gene Vidocq

Again, the assumption plaintiff is making is that the weapon was of US origin


very doubtful it was,but I can't blame the atty for going after whoever has the deepest pockets.


18 posted on 09/24/2005 9:24:28 AM PDT by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: Khan Noonian Singh
Are we mice or are we men?


19 posted on 09/24/2005 9:35:43 AM PDT by Gene Vidocq (Damnation is the price he'll pay, for an evil man's desire.)
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To: Battle Axe

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20 posted on 09/24/2005 9:40:10 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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