The trouble with Darwin (Bush's I.D. comments changed Australia's Educational Landscape)

Sydney Morning Herald ^ | 24 Sept 2005 | Damien Murphy

[Doctor Stochastic]

Of course the Institute for Creation Research dislikes Darwin's theory because they think it supports capitalism.

[Doctor Stochastic]

...the measure of value in Darwin is survival with reproduction...

False. Survival with reproduction is not a "value."

[gobucks]

I can't help myself ... I had to just tap an irrational ping to you ... especially when it was observed you have no rational arguments...

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"I can't help myself ... I had to just tap an irrational ping to you ... especially when it was observed you have no rational arguments..."

The only right thing you have ever said on this forum. Even a broken clock is right 2 times a day. :)

[Doctor Stochastic]

Some people let that slip now and then.

[Dark Knight]

Science does not have alot to do with "reading people" <<

And you will never be able to teach your ability to "gut" read people. Psychology has spent much time on this issue. But I will let you decide whether you believe psychology is a science or not, I'm undecided.

DK

[ml1954]

LOL. That's a good one.

[Doctor Stochastic]

Note that asking for "motives" rather than "evidence" are is one of the hallmarks of the postmoderndeconstructionists reationists are just postmoderndeconstructionists differently vestmented.

[JNL]

All I know is Psyc was a class I took because I had to. I scored pretty well.

Psyc is not a science.

[Just mythoughts]

"At least you are consistent. :) A foolish consistency is the Hobgoblin of little minds."


Whattttt, sorry evolutionists have no training, knowledge, or methodology scientifically to speak to the nature or stature of a mind, that part of the flesh is out side their preview.

[js1138]

I'm still waiting for a quote from the communist standard bearers to the affect that 'The stronger and the further evolved are the masters.' Barzun attempting to tie Marx and Darwin together doesn't qualify.

Evolution is simultaneously the driving philosophy behind socialism and robber-baron capitalism. The method of reconciling these thoughts is best explained by Orwell.

[js1138]

It takes a great deal of faith to believe in evolution.

And we may infer from the sneer behind this statement that ideas requiring faith are rubbish.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"Whattttt, sorry evolutionists have no training, knowledge, or methodology scientifically to speak to the nature or stature of a mind, that part of the flesh is out side their preview."

There is no evidence that Mind is outside of Flesh. Sorry you have no logical answer to Darwin.

[ohioWfan]

No. Not at all.

It's just a recognition of what you believe relative to what you have tangible evidence to support.

[js1138]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1490515/posts?page=191#191

[js1138]

It's just a recognition of what you believe relative to what you have tangible evidence to support.

So having faith is an admission that there is no evidence for something?

[ohioWfan]

There is no way to prove faith. There is no way to test the existence of God.

And there is no way to prove your faith in evolution. You take bits and pieces of scientific evidence and put them together into a theory that takes a great deal of faith.

It's fine. Just be honest about it.

Now, in the interest of not losing any sleep over this discussion, I shall depart.

Keep the faith, js. :)

[Just mythoughts]

"There is no evidence that Mind is outside of Flesh. Sorry you have no logical answer to Darwin."

I am not talking to Darwin, now am I. Darwin is no more, only silly flesh beings attempt to make him alive by sniping and clipping what he actually believed. Survival of the fittest in the purest simplest form.

Evolutionists play little gods proclaiming without evidence, all life crawled out of a mystical primordial soup bowl.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"nd there is no way to prove your faith in evolution. "

As there is no way to prove any other scientific theory. Evolution has good company. There is no evidence though for your just-so story of creationism.

"Now, in the interest of not losing any sleep over this discussion, I shall depart."

Sleep well. :)

[ml1954]

Evolution is simultaneously the driving philosophy behind socialism and robber-baron capitalism. The method of reconciling these thoughts is best explained by Orwell.

You mean the idea of 'survival of the fittest' don't you? I know you know this is different from the TOE. At any rate, the statement that brought this up was that communists adhered to the idea that 'The stronger and the further evolved are the masters.'

This attempt to connect the TOE with the ideas of Communists (and Nazis) and their ilk really clouds the discussion and provides rhetorical and propaganda fodder for opponents of the TOE.

BTW. I'm interested in what Orwell has to say. Can you point me somewhere?