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RSC proposed cuts incite friction among house GOP
The Hill ^ | 9-22-05 | Patrick O'Conner

Posted on 09/22/2005 9:19:24 AM PDT by Gipper08

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Asked how conservatives could push some of these initiatives if leadership is not behind them, Pence said, “Don’t leave the American people out of the equation.”
1 posted on 09/22/2005 9:19:25 AM PDT by Gipper08
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To: Gipper08

“Don’t leave the American people out of the equation.”


It hasn't stopped them yet.


2 posted on 09/22/2005 9:20:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: MNJohnnie; Txsleuth; ovrtaxt; Justanobody; Happy2BMe; sam_whiskey; Scholastic; nonliberal; ...

Call your Congressman and demand they support OPERATION OFFSET.Pence is right,it is up to us!


3 posted on 09/22/2005 9:21:19 AM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: Howlin; Peach; marron

FYI.


4 posted on 09/22/2005 9:25:58 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: Gipper08

Did this last week and again this week. Phone and email. Keep doing it!


5 posted on 09/22/2005 9:25:58 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Ponce de Leon is coming here to look for the fountain of dumb. DC is his first stop.)
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To: Gipper08

No, I do NOT support it. He wants to cut health benefits for the military. This is a hekkuva way to "support our troops."


6 posted on 09/22/2005 9:26:52 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: MizSterious

The best way to support the troops is to get the Federal Government TOTALLY out of Health care.Socialism always leads to POVERTY!


7 posted on 09/22/2005 9:29:51 AM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: Gipper08

So how much for PBS again?


8 posted on 09/22/2005 9:32:50 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (chance is the “magic wand to make not only rabbits but entire universes appear out of nothing.”)
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From the Army Times regarding cutting military health benefits:

Reduced health care benefits could save $2.4 billion over 10 years.

Please, do not support this!

9 posted on 09/22/2005 9:34:27 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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The best way to support the troops is to get the Federal Government TOTALLY out of Health care.

That could be one of the dumbest statements I've EVER seen posted on FR.

10 posted on 09/22/2005 9:35:05 AM PDT by Howlin
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Asked how conservatives could push some of these initiatives if leadership is not behind them, Pence said, “Don’t leave the American people out of the equation.”

I already sent a very nice message to my congressman, Scott Garrett (5th district, NJ), this morning. I saw him on CSPAN with the others and was very, very pleased. Who'd have thought they'd have to fight their own to get spending cuts? Washington corrupts.

11 posted on 09/22/2005 9:35:17 AM PDT by Huck (There's nothing you can hold for very long.)
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To: Gipper08

If you won't take care of your soldiers and their families, who can fault them if they decide to take a job in the private sector so they can take care of these things themselves. Go fight your own war next time.


12 posted on 09/22/2005 9:35:49 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: MizSterious

That's total BS. First, it's a proposal. You oppose ANY effort to cut if anyone even SUGGESTS a cut you don't like? Second, there is no proposed cut in health benefits. The proposal is to OFFER incentives if military families will CHOOSE a less costly option. That's not a cut in benefits, liar.


13 posted on 09/22/2005 9:37:58 AM PDT by Huck (There's nothing you can hold for very long.)
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To: Howlin

Some of these people "support the troops" about as much as Cindy Sheehan does. At least she doesn't pretend to be a conservative.


14 posted on 09/22/2005 9:38:51 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: Gipper08

That federal matching dollars for presidential candidates should be immediately stopped. This is one of the reasons we get whackjobs running for the presidency.


15 posted on 09/22/2005 9:39:00 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: Huck

I quoted directly from the article. Who's the liar?


16 posted on 09/22/2005 9:39:37 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: Gipper08
One of the biggest proposed offsets was Rep. Jeff Flake’s (R-Ariz.) call to postpone the Medicare prescription-drug benefit one year. Flake, a vocal opponent of the bill when it passed the House during a contentious three-hour vote in 2003, said postponing the benefit would save the federal government approximately $40 billion next year.

The Viagra for Grandpa program is going to do more to bankrupt this country than SS will.

17 posted on 09/22/2005 9:41:27 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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“They’re setting up a problem with their own conservative base if they can’t achieve what they’re looking to get done.”

Oh, that's rich...the Homer Simpson philosophy: "You'll only fail, so don't even try". Seems appearance is once again trumping results.

Makes sense, I guess; we're all too stupid to recognize a good-faith effort or even a compromise as counting for anything worthwhile these days. It's far more important to satisfy all of the peeps, all of the time with a bunch of fake empty rhetoric.

18 posted on 09/22/2005 9:43:14 AM PDT by liberty_lvr (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.)
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Who's the liar?

You're the liar. Notice how you left out all the details:

• Service members would be offered cash if they are willing to accept reduced health care benefits for their families. “The less comprehensive plan would encourage individuals to be more cost-conscious when purchasing health care products by including deductibles, co-payments and a maximum annual out-of-pocket expenditure limit,” according to a written explanation provided by the study group. Reduced health care benefits could save $2.4 billion over 10 years.

The proposal calls for a completely voluntary offer that incentives efficiency. It's not a cut at all. See? You're a liar, or else you just can't read. Why'd you leave out all the details and just print an inflammatory sentence out of context? Gunning for a job at Reuters or AP?

19 posted on 09/22/2005 9:45:00 AM PDT by Huck
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If they're saving money, it's a cut. Spin it all you want, but this is so Clintonian--and Carter-like--that it makes me want to hurl that a Republican came up with it. YOU talk as though everyone in the military spends the day in the clinic just because they can? How contemptable of you! I don't know anyone (although some no doubt exist) who would want to head for the clinic when they didn't need to!


20 posted on 09/22/2005 9:47:43 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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