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Bonds, Alou lift Giants to win with home runs apiece(Breaking-Bonds hits #707 today)
Napa News ^ | 9/21/05 | AP

Posted on 09/21/2005 7:55:26 PM PDT by RGSpincich

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To: SpringheelJack

If you had read my post, I didn't mention his performance. I mentioned his complaining about the media.


61 posted on 09/22/2005 2:13:46 AM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: Rodney Dangerfield

OK, let's hear some evidence that Aaron was involved in this.


62 posted on 09/22/2005 2:14:31 AM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: Andy from Beaverton

Ummm...ok and?


63 posted on 09/22/2005 2:15:18 AM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: SALChamps03

One stat you can't compare/consider

How many HR'a would Bonds have without the JUICE?

It's too bad because he would have made the HOF without steroids. Damm Juice head...and ge will never get away from that issue.


64 posted on 09/22/2005 2:52:35 AM PDT by JohnD9207 (Lead...follow...or get the HELL out of the way!)
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To: SpringheelJack
Fine, but the impression you left of Yankee Stadium was not really true.

When anything hit hard from deep left to deep right has to go between 488 to 500 feet to be a HR, it's a very accurate impression that you can't compare it to today's little league parks. How many times has Bonds hit a 500 ft. HR? Maybe a couple. Ruth had to deal with that every home game for 14 years.

65 posted on 09/22/2005 5:32:05 AM PDT by T. Jefferson
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To: RGSpincich

Pitching is an entirely different mode of play, baserunning is not.

Bonds is an ass, a chemical-freak. Not even a 'Roid Rager like Barry could lift the gigantic asterisk that will label his every record.


66 posted on 09/22/2005 6:04:38 AM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Rodney Dangerfield

Baserunning (base stealing) is all part of playing offense, and Juiceboy is better than the Babe at that.

But Babe Ruth was an extraordinary PITCHER. Bonds just stands in the outfield picking his nose and trying to quell his roid rage.


Ruth was great on offense AND defense. Herr Juiceman was not.


67 posted on 09/22/2005 6:11:46 AM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: RGSpincich


68 posted on 09/22/2005 6:15:45 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: Petronski
Let me make this more clear:

Baserunning (base stealing) is all part of playing offense, and Juiceboy is better than the Babe at that.

Should be:

Baserunning (base stealing) is all part of playing offense, and Juiceboy is better than the Babe at base stealing.

69 posted on 09/22/2005 6:34:23 AM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: RGSpincich

The Pad's magic number is 7. I have tickets to the Pads and Giants at Petco on the 27th and 28th. With luck I will be there to see Steroid Boy as the Pads celebrate the National League West title.


70 posted on 09/22/2005 9:40:17 AM PDT by p. henry
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To: RGSpincich

Pardon my ignorance but why is this important?


71 posted on 09/22/2005 10:21:47 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (I am conservative. That is NOT the same thing as Republican. Don't place party over principle.)
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To: Petronski

Wrong - Bonds won several Gold Gloves playing the outfield position, and still plays in the outfield despite being at an age where most players go the AL and DH, or become 1st baseman.

Aaron played LF late into his career as well.

To say that OF's just stand arond picking thier nose is ludicris.


72 posted on 09/22/2005 10:24:18 AM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield
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To: bpjam

His status with the team made him subject to testing all year long. He was tested once and came up clean.


73 posted on 09/22/2005 10:27:28 AM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "Great point." -- AliVertias; ":-) Very clever" -- MJY1288)
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To: giant sable

Bonds will never be a better baseball player than Ruth until he can throw a no-hitter.


74 posted on 09/22/2005 10:31:26 AM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "Great point." -- AliVertias; ":-) Very clever" -- MJY1288)
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To: SALChamps03

Actually, I think it's all Bush's fault!

Cindy Sheehan, by the way, has singlehandedly diverted the hurricane away from the Texas coast, and it will now strike only near Crawford.


75 posted on 09/22/2005 10:32:32 AM PDT by StrangerInParadise (This tagline has been reported stolen. If you see it, call BR-549..........)
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To: AmishDude

Ruth will never be better than Bonds, until he steals 500 bases.


76 posted on 09/22/2005 10:38:33 AM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield
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To: RGSpincich; Rodney Dangerfield

Glad to have company in standing up for Bonds. I usually get blasted on any of the Bonds threads, but don't care. I've worked at Candlestick and SBC Park for many years and have had the pleasure of watching Bonds play. You can love him or hate him, rant on about the steroids and his prickly manner with the press, but year in and year out I have watched him thrill the fans with his play. The man is definitely one of the best in his field, and it's too bad he can't get respect for that. I equate his tormentors with Bush haters.......they just can't stand seeing someone they don't personally like do well professionally. I say GET OVER IT!!


77 posted on 09/22/2005 10:49:39 AM PDT by Primetimedonna
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To: RGSpincich

Strange pic of Aaron. No way he ever took an AB choking up that far. The bat in the pic must have had dog crap on it.


78 posted on 09/22/2005 11:10:03 AM PDT by Gunflint
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To: Gunflint

Looks like he was playing pepper.


79 posted on 09/22/2005 11:12:09 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: T. Jefferson; SpringheelJack; Rodney Dangerfield

Babe Ruth became a full-time outfielder in 1919 (although he still pitched in 17 games, 15 of them starts, and went 8-5 with a 2.98 ERA). That year, he broke the AL single-season home run record (16 by Socks Seybold in 1902), then the 20th Century single-season record (24 by Gavvy Cravath in 1915) and finally the all-time Major League single-season record (27 by Ned Williamson in 1884) and ended the season with 29 homers. The next year, after moving from Fenway Park to the Polo Grounds upon his purchase by the Yankees, he hit 54 homers, pushing his career total to 103 homers, thus breaking Home Run Baker's AL career record of 80 (actually, his home run production in 1919 and 1920 alone would have been enough for Ruth to break Baker's record). In 1921, Ruth broke Gavvy Cravath's 20th Century record of 119 career homers, and later in the season broke Roger Connor's all-time career record of 138 homers; Ruth hit 59 homers that year to finish the season with 162 career home runs. In his first three seasons as a full-time outfielder, Babe Ruth hit more homers (142) than any other player in Major League history had hit for his entire career. Babe Ruth reached 250 career homers in 1924 and 300 career homers in 1925. In 1929, the year in which Rogers Hornsby and Cy Williams became the second and third players in history to reach 250 career homers, Ruth hit his 500th career home run. And in 1934, the year in which Lou Gehrig and Rogers Hornsby became the second and third players in history to reach 300 career homers, Ruth hit his 700th career home run.

Oh yeah, and he retired the following year with a career batting average of .342 (6th all-time, behind Ty Cobb, Rogers Hornsby, Joe Jackson, Tris Speaker and Ted Williams, among 20th Century players with 4,000 plate appearances), a career on-base percentage of .474 (2nd all-time behind Ted Williams) and a career slugging percentage of .690 (best of all time), plus a career won-lost record of 94-46 (his .671 career winning percentage is 6th among 20th Century pitchers with 100 career decisions), a career 2.28 ERA (11th all-time among 20th Century pitchers with 1,000 or more innings pitched) and only 7.18 hits allowed per 9 innings (12th all-time among pitchers with 1,000 or more IP; which is even more impressive when you consider that the first 9 guys on the list debuted in the Majors after 1950).

Barry Bonds is a great, great player, and there's no doubt in my mind he's the greatest left fielder of all time (ahead of Stan Musial, Ted Williams and Rickey Henderson). But there's only been one Babe.


80 posted on 09/22/2005 12:00:22 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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