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Giuliani Leads 2008 Republican White House Hopefuls (Rasmussen Poll)
Angus Reid ^ | 9/21/05

Posted on 09/21/2005 7:06:15 AM PDT by areafiftyone

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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Pence has not been here.

That's because he's not running yet. We might have to drag him kicking and screaming.

Brownback and Huckabee both gave great speeches.

Really? Now that is interesting, I like Sam Brownback a lot, but always though his speech delivery was his downfall.

61 posted on 09/21/2005 7:39:28 AM PDT by NeoCaveman ("Government is not the solution, it is the problem" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: areafiftyone

I still like Cheney/Rice in '08!


62 posted on 09/21/2005 7:39:29 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: jveritas
The country will not accept an ultra left wing liberal, phony, nasty, elitist like Hillary Clinton.

And that two-hundred-pounds of baggage named Bill, regardless of him being elected twice (neither time with a majority I might add).

63 posted on 09/21/2005 7:39:50 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: areafiftyone

I hate polls, but recent data shows that both Giuliani or McCain would beat Hillary.

numbers were something like

53% McCain - 45% Hillary
52% Guiliani - 46% Hillary

the 2% missing was to factor in potential polling errors.

And I believe it will be the same type of numbers 3 years from now. Those that will vote democrat will vote democrat no matter what. Hillary isn't going to win any new converts. The dems are going to grossly underestimate how much people are sick of the Clintons and don't want their BS-fest back in the whitehouse. Plus no northest liberal democrat has a prayer of taking the whitehouse these days. The south has moved steadily over to the republican side for many years now. Hillary can't win in the south, even if she grabs a southern running mate like Kerry tried, and thats all she wrote.


64 posted on 09/21/2005 7:40:26 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican
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To: dubyaismypresident
Both Brownback and Huckabee were great. In my crowd, we all admitted that if he had to choose between one of them, we didn't know which one we would choose. They were very impressive.

Huckabee played his guitar with the band. I talked to him briefly about playing for Freepers.

65 posted on 09/21/2005 7:42:07 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: kellynla

"I still like Cheney/Rice in '08!"

What do you think of Cheney/Allen?


66 posted on 09/21/2005 7:42:20 AM PDT by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Ronald Reagan is the TRUE "Father Of Our Country".)
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To: VRWCmember
A leader that will lead in the wrong direction is not what we need.

It is if he has the right letter by his name. Don't worry, Faux News will decide which candidate is best for us and then start selling that person to the public in '06 as the last best chance for conservatism. It's become embarrasing how many people I consider somewhat sane that will continue to vote for someone just because the candidate has the 'right' letter by their name. Conservatism will advance no further, or rather stop sliding back, until the majority of conservatives realize Republicans are in it for the votes and not principle

67 posted on 09/21/2005 7:43:12 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: areafiftyone
I hate to say this, but Hillary WILL WIN if Giuliani or McCain doesn't run. No Republican right now can beat Hillary!

Shrillery is not invincible. I realize she has tons of baggage (then again....so did sKerry...), but I don't believe she is as strong as the MSM makes her out to be.

The only way she'll win is, if:

a) not enough Republicans/conservatives vote for her opponent

b) voter fraud (which I think would be most likely)

and c) all of the above.

68 posted on 09/21/2005 7:43:13 AM PDT by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big".....Jerry Fletcher)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

"the 2% missing was to factor in potential polling errors."

Or the 2% is Ross Perot. LOL


69 posted on 09/21/2005 7:43:41 AM PDT by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Ronald Reagan is the TRUE "Father Of Our Country".)
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To: BoBToMatoE
"I bet Rice's numbers would go through the roof if she would committ to a run."

Really? If she committed she'd be forced to state her positions on the issues. Does anyone know her position on abortion, affirmative action, illegal immigration, tax cuts, stem cells, deficit reduction, homosexual marriage? Until one knows her positions I don't see how you could support her for president. We need to get away from picking star candidates and chose candidates who agree with the conservative agenda.

70 posted on 09/21/2005 7:44:57 AM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: areafiftyone
From the Rasmussen article: "The next presidential election is scheduled for November 2008."

Huh? The next presidential election will be in November 2008.

These polls get a lot of knee-jerk responses, don't they?

71 posted on 09/21/2005 7:45:52 AM PDT by cloud8
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To: teenyelliott
And isn't he pro-choice? I don't think I would vote for him.

And that is the only criteria to not vote for him?

72 posted on 09/21/2005 7:46:06 AM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

As much as I like Senator Sam, I don't see either of those guys as spending hawks or border control types.


73 posted on 09/21/2005 7:46:18 AM PDT by NeoCaveman ("Government is not the solution, it is the problem" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: blaquebyrd
they got starstruck and threw the conservative candidate, McClintock under the bus.

Not the situation at all.

McClintock was definitely the preferred candidate.

& w/ his charm & finesse he had absolutely 0% chance of accomplishing anything against a hostile legislature.

It was a time for results, not feelings &/or principles.

74 posted on 09/21/2005 7:48:09 AM PDT by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: harpu

Amen, that would be a dream! But it won't happen.


75 posted on 09/21/2005 7:48:34 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: blaquebyrd

Dear blaquebyrd,

Great post. You raise good questions. This reminds me of the groundswell for former Sec. Powell. These folks look great as long as everyone can project their own thoughts, views, and predilections on them. Once they were to announce, or began to delineate their views, they'd lose the support of those who found out that these individuals hold markedly different views.

The temptation of this sort of candidate is to try to straddle the fence on at least some important issues, I think. With Sec. Rice, we see it on the issue of abortion, where she describes herself as being "mildly pro-choice." That's tough to parse, doncha think?

She seems solidly pro-2nd amendment, at least for now. But I'm unaware of her views on the rest of the important questions you name.


sitetest


76 posted on 09/21/2005 7:50:17 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: popdonnelly

Being from California you all are from the New England area. 8-)


77 posted on 09/21/2005 7:50:22 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: areafiftyone
I don't want to vote for Guiliani, but I don't hate him. Far from it. I think he did a tremendous job cleaning up NYC, and an unbelievable job after 9/11.

I just do not think his beliefs are in line with the majority of conservatives.

He's a great leader, but more of a lib, IMO.

78 posted on 09/21/2005 7:50:49 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: Rummyfan

That is absolutely correct.


79 posted on 09/21/2005 7:51:09 AM PDT by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1

I don't know that much about Allen but I believe it is past time for a black to be on the GOP ticket.
If Rice had some previous elected office experience, I might put her on top of the ticket depending on her performance but that not being the case, I like Cheney/Rice.
By the time they get through replacing all the internal parts on Cheney; he'll be the next 8 million dollar man. LOL


80 posted on 09/21/2005 7:51:27 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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