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Army to Expand Array of Armored Vehicles in Iraq
National Defense ^ | October 2005 | Sandra I. Erwin

Posted on 09/19/2005 11:47:20 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4

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Hunter Box

Multipurpose Troop Transport Carrier System (MTTCS)

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1 posted on 09/19/2005 11:47:22 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4
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2 posted on 09/19/2005 11:53:51 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Kandahar Airfield -- “We’re not on the edge of the world, but we can see it from here")
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I say give the troops the best protection known to man before making the Democratic Party's entitlement leeches in New Orleans look like they hit the lottery.

The Democrats are the ones that promised them it they voted for them they'd take care of them from cradle 'til grave. Let them find the money to make good on their promises, or be exposes for the crooked frauds they are.

3 posted on 09/19/2005 11:59:44 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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good Lord it's the armored winnebago from "Stripes" in desert tan!


4 posted on 09/20/2005 12:06:19 AM PDT by jz638
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Been seeing a lot of these lately.

5 posted on 09/20/2005 12:13:26 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Kandahar Airfield -- “We’re not on the edge of the world, but we can see it from here")
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30 or more years ago it was deuce & a half with a set of quad 50's in the back, very effective.
6 posted on 09/20/2005 12:51:46 AM PDT by RunningWolf (U.S. Army Veteran.....75-78)
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I think I've seen a Hunter Box on "Over There".


7 posted on 09/20/2005 12:56:36 AM PDT by I_dmc
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What's the advantage of MTTCS over LAVs and Stryker? Why not use a Stryker instead?


8 posted on 09/20/2005 3:00:09 AM PDT by Wiz
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30 or more years ago it was deuce & a half with a set of quad 50's in the back, very effective.

Nope, it was a 5 ton with the quads in the back ( I know - being picky). A deuce and a half was not powerful enough, no acceleration, no power steering and it could not carry enough ammunition for the quad mount. Our quads also had an M60 on a pedestal behind the cab to cover the road to the front before the quad could be brought into the fight.

9 posted on 09/20/2005 3:08:50 AM PDT by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20050913/sc_space/nascarengineershelpdesignnewcombatvehicle


10 posted on 09/20/2005 3:29:19 AM PDT by leadpenny
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A GI’s vacation RV?

11 posted on 09/20/2005 3:39:26 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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One on the left is a current possible Humvee replacement, has a blast buck compartment for the passengers.
12 posted on 09/20/2005 3:51:53 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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Ultra AP and Ultra 3T Concept/Experimental Armored Vehicles for U.S. Infantry: The venerable Humvee is due for replacement, perhaps with this vehicle being designed by the Georgia Tech Research Institute:

The 3-ton ULTRA 3T will unite an array of advanced technologies in a single automotive package. Some of these technologies, such as anti-lock brakes and airbags, are commonly available on production automobiles. Others, such as computerized stability control systems and advanced power-generating capabilities, are truly cutting edge…

Found via this USA Today article which said:

The original Humvee design worked well in the Persian Gulf War, Bosnia, Kosovo and elsewhere, says Thomas Donnelly, a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, a research organization. The Iraq war has forced the vehicle into doing what “it was never contemplated that it would do,” including battling bomb-wielding insurgents in today’s urban combat.

The armoring of the Humvee to counter the bombs has had limited success. Some shortcomings cannot be fixed without a thorough redesign. For example, even with armor, a Humvee’s flat bottom won’t deflect bomb blasts as well as new designs with boat-bottom-shaped underbodies.

Deane | August 23, 2005 | Comments RSS:

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I heard there were a lot of problems with Hummers breaking axles due to their wide wheelbase.

This thing reminds me of those old WWII German half truck/half tank looking deals.

dz | August 24, 2005 11:50 AM

If you are talking about Hummer’s breaking axles during the recent conflict, it is not due to the wide wheelbase…it is due to the added weight of the up-armor kits being installed. This is adding significant weight to a vehicle that was not designed for it. Of course, the soldiers in the field will definately trade off axle and suspension problems for the extra protection provided.

I like the thoughts being put into the new vehicle…more passive safety features are needed in these vehicles than just a seatbelt. Once you have your body armor on, seatbelts are far to restrictive to your movement and most soldiers don’t bother putting them on. I have to wonder what force it would require for the airbag to deploy, especially if this is going to have the off-road abilities of the Humvee…I can think of many times when I could have set off the average airbag during training and deployment.

Keith | August 24, 2005 03:05 PM

13 posted on 09/20/2005 3:54:56 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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Nope. It's what Ray Nagin is going to buy for the New Orleans Transit Authority to replace all those flooded city buses he didn't evacuate people with.

}:-)4


14 posted on 09/20/2005 3:56:39 AM PDT by Moose4 (Richmond, Virginia, where our motto is "Will Riot For Cheap Laptops")
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15 posted on 09/20/2005 4:00:18 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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Some detail...

Link:

Ultra AP and Ultra 3T Concept/Experimental Armored Vehicles for U.S. Infantry

16 posted on 09/20/2005 4:01:37 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

That looks like a good idea if they're purpose-building a light-armored vehicle for urban combat. After all, the HMMWV was just supposed to be "the new Jeep." They're asking it to do things it never really was designed to do, and it's doing an OK job at it.

Nobody could build an armored car or halftrack like the Wehrmacht. Bring back the Puma! Or maybe the Sdkfz 251? :)

}:-)4


17 posted on 09/20/2005 4:05:53 AM PDT by Moose4 (Richmond, Virginia, where our motto is "Will Riot For Cheap Laptops")
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

A goggle search can take you to the "Gun Trucks" site from VN. The trucks they build look very much like the Hunter Box.


18 posted on 09/20/2005 4:33:05 AM PDT by PeteB570
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Thats right I forgot


19 posted on 09/20/2005 4:47:37 AM PDT by RunningWolf (U.S. Army Veteran.....75-78)
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LOL. Reminds me of the RV from Stripes.


20 posted on 09/20/2005 6:56:45 AM PDT by BJClinton (Yaaargh! Happy Day After Talk Like a Pirate Day!)
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