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Making The Move From CD to iPod
New Jersey.com ^ | September 18, 2005 | Allan Hoffman

Posted on 09/18/2005 7:44:51 PM PDT by SamAdams76

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To: GOP_Proud
...but I don't NEED thousands of songs.

My wife and I were on a road trip recently when she wanted to hear a number of different songs that neither of us had listened to in a while. I use a Third generation iPod with with the iTrip FM transmitter, and we were able to hear everything we wanted to within a few seconds of thinking of it. It beats bringing the entire CD collection, shuffling through it, and jumping through tracks to hear each song. Cult? Maybe, but a harmless one. Gay accessory? A lot of gays use the internet, too. Expensive toy? You betcha. I'm sure glad I can afford one.

161 posted on 09/19/2005 4:37:51 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (The best things happen just before the thread snaps.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

< to iPod, Jet Jaguar wrote:
You can listen to Rush on the ipod. >

...but I listen to Rush everyday, here at my desk on live stream...AND I get the ditto cam.


162 posted on 09/19/2005 4:39:15 AM PDT by GOP_Proud (Those who preach tolerance most, have the least for my views.)
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To: Sans-Culotte
Most symphonies and operas are rather long, so shuffling lists of songs does not interest me much.

When listening to symphonies, et. al., I set my iPod to shuffle by Album, so I still get a random work, but I'll hear all of the movements (in the case of a symphony) in their proper order.

163 posted on 09/19/2005 4:44:32 AM PDT by kevkrom ("Political looters" should be shot on sight)
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To: GOP_Proud

I cannot, live, so I listen when I can. I like that I can download it and go work out, on my schedule.


164 posted on 09/19/2005 4:45:01 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: SlowBoat407
I have burned CDs consisting of songs downloaded from iTunes and converted to AIFF - the standard CD music format. It's built into the software.

I've also burned a playlist (ripped into the computer in the AAC format) onto an MP3 disk that worked just fine on my wife's MP3-compatible car CD player.

165 posted on 09/19/2005 4:49:29 AM PDT by kevkrom ("Political looters" should be shot on sight)
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To: BansheeBill
You download/purchase music files to your computers hard-drive or rip songs from CD that you own or borrow, and store those files on your comouter's hard-drive, and then you choose which ones you want on your iPod and load them from the computer's hard-drive onto the iPod. Right? Is that right, or do people download / buy songs from websites right onto their iPods?

The tracks are downloaded to the hard drive (or ripped to the hard drive). The typical usage of iPod has the user "sync" their iPod to the computer, which will update the tracks and playlists on the iPod based on your setting from the iTunes applications.

Do you back up all your music files?

Anything I've gotten from the iTunes store (typically through free credits from the Pepsi promotions), I back up to physical media. I do find the fact that you can't re-download from iTunes an annoyance -- if they have a record that your account purchased a particular track or album, your account should be able to download it multiple times.

166 posted on 09/19/2005 4:54:46 AM PDT by kevkrom ("Political looters" should be shot on sight)
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To: SamAdams76

I did that a long time ago, even before I got an iPod.

I moved everything over to my hard drive and used an mp3 player with a 1 mb sd memory chip.

When we got the iPod we were already in position to load up our collection. It is nice not having to choose what music to stick on the 1 mb tho (although my wife gets the iPod -- I keep using the mp3 player)


167 posted on 09/19/2005 4:58:18 AM PDT by Shazbot29 (Trolling member of the DU Activist Corps!)
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To: dennisw

It's a gadget. I am interested in why you give it so much credit.


168 posted on 09/19/2005 5:02:28 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: SamAdams76
This is my experience almost exactly. Only I am not selling my CDs but boxing them up for storage in the attic. I gather that one day, when hard drive storage is even greater than today, I might want to re-rip my songs at a higher bitrate.

There is another reason to retain them that the author of this article appears ignorant of. The CDs are proof that you paid for the music. Copying that music and giving away its source is piracy.

169 posted on 09/19/2005 5:11:11 AM PDT by jimfree (Freep and Ye shall find.)
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To: kevkrom
I do find the fact that you can't re-download from iTunes an annoyance -- if they have a record that your account purchased a particular track or album, your account should be able to download it multiple times.

Try going back to the music store and telling them that because your dog chewed up your favorite CD, which you purchased from them and for which you still have the receipt, they should give you another one for free.

The plastic it's stamped on is worth a quarter.

170 posted on 09/19/2005 5:15:51 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (The best things happen just before the thread snaps.)
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To: SamAdams76

Will the heat from attic storage damage CDs the way it warps old albums? Just a thought.


171 posted on 09/19/2005 5:20:06 AM PDT by Muzzle_em (I'm an island awash in a sea of stupidity)
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To: corkoman

I, too, have rejected the iPOD and iTunes because of the format. My primary device for playing music is my PDA (an HP iPAQ 5455) with a 1GB SD card for storage. I simply don't see the utility of carrying around a separate device to play music when my iPAQ plays music and does so much more--videos, games, ebooks, Quicken, photos, contacts, calendar, Internet, Word, Excel, PowerPoint, notes, etc. With the 1GB SD card, I have plenty of room for music that would keep me entertained on long plane rides. Besides, you can't play games on an iPOD while you're listening to music at the same time.


172 posted on 09/19/2005 5:20:18 AM PDT by piperpilot
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To: SlowBoat407
Try going back to the music store and telling them that because your dog chewed up your favorite CD, which you purchased from them and for which you still have the receipt, they should give you another one for free.

The big difference is that in the electronic model, the track that I've downloaded is encrypted/protected to be played by my account only. Giving me a second, third, or tenth copy does not make it any easier for my to "pirate" the music.

173 posted on 09/19/2005 5:27:03 AM PDT by kevkrom ("Political looters" should be shot on sight)
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To: Muzzle_em

Light and heat are the enemies of burned CDs.


174 posted on 09/19/2005 5:28:25 AM PDT by dennisw (If you can serve a cup of tea right, you can do anything. - Gurdjieff)
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To: JohnLongIsland

I enjoy my vinyl collection, too. What amazes me is that I've got records going back to the 1930's. It amazes me that they've endured 70 years and will probably last another 70. CD's were supposed to be almost
"indestructable," but I've got many of them that are unplayable after 10 years.

I'm a "worst-case scenario" kind of guy. A society that places its culture completely on digital storage will have that culture disappear after a single EMP attack. There are still musical scores from Bach, Mozart, and Beethoven in existence on paper. Hard drives crash. Records don't. If want something to last, put it on paper, press it on an analog disk, or photograph it and have it printed on quality acid-free paper.


175 posted on 09/19/2005 5:36:54 AM PDT by gregwest
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To: Walkingfeather
You can carry thousands of songs with you and play them in the car or at home

How do you connect your iPod to your home and car stereo?

176 posted on 09/19/2005 5:50:25 AM PDT by Auntie Mame (The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.--WC)
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To: corkoman
I have eliminated all iPOD products from my upcoming mp3 player purchase as I dont want to be hamstrung with using iTunes

Try this.

Of course, depending on your player, you could be hamstrung with Windows Media Player, which is worse.

177 posted on 09/19/2005 6:04:39 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: NYCVirago
This person better hope they never have any computer viruses, or any problems with their Ipod, unless they want to have to pay for the same music over and over.

At least it's not Windows-based -- Creative has already had a virus on their products.

But he has his music in at least two places, the iPod and his computer. And he can backup any music. This is far better than the pre-CD burning days, where you were toast if you scratched your CD.

178 posted on 09/19/2005 6:28:54 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: gregwest

EMP attack doesn't kill CDs which are optical storage. But I'm amazed by your assertion that you have CDs that are unplayable after 10 years. These are not CDs you burned?


179 posted on 09/19/2005 6:33:24 AM PDT by dennisw (If you can serve a cup of tea right, you can do anything. - Gurdjieff)
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To: Dan Nunn
This person better hope they never have any computer viruses, or any problems with their Ipod, unless they want to have to pay for the same music over and over.

I was looking to buy a music player a bit before the iPod came out. All mp3 players were absolutely horrible. I settled on a minidisc player instead. Apple made the first usable consumer-electronics grade mp3 player. Before then they were unusable geek toys.

Of course, phones playing mp3s is pretty old too. I bought a Siemens that played mp3 files in early 2001.

180 posted on 09/19/2005 6:34:52 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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